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February 8, 2013
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February 8, 2013With ESPN’s resident draftniks releasing their second iterations of their 2013 NFL mock drafts, the Cleveland Browns continue to be pegged with having a strong focus on a pass-rushing linebacker.
Mel Kiper Jr did not waiver from his first mock draft, placing Florida State’s Bjoern Werner as the next big thing to wear Orange and Brown.
The Browns regressed on defense in 2012, and the pass rush was a culprit. This was, by every standard, a bottom-10 unit, and they simply need to add talent. If they want the best player available at this spot, and a guy who fills a void, it might be Werner by the time we get to April. In fact, by then he could be expected to go higher. A late arrival to football, he has a high ceiling, but already has a decent portfolio of pass-rush skills. What’s great about Werner isn’t just the explosiveness as a pass-rusher, it’s also his awareness. He keeps his eyes up and disrupts passing lanes. He’s a good fit for the Browns.
Todd McShay, conversely, has Werner being selected second-overall by the Jacksonville Jaguars. In turn, he gives the Browns a player on whom many fans have set their collective site: LSU’s Barkevious Mingo.
New defensive coordinator Ray Horton will run a versatile scheme that likely will employ a base 3-4 front, and while the Browns have good depth along the defensive front they need more talented edge rushers. Mingo fits the bill. He is raw, but is the fastest, most athletic edge rusher in the class and could be part as a disruptive perimeter duo with Jabaal Sheard.
The 6-foot-5-inch Mingo has drawn heavy comparison to San Francisco’s Aldon Smith due to his physicality and tenacity. There are, however, questions about his technique. Kiper has him being selected 10th overall by the Tennessee Titans.
Kiper continues to have Gerogia’s Jarvis Jones being taken one spot before Cleveland while McShay him sliding past Cleveland and landing in New York with the Jets who select ninth.
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Bottom line- they are guessing as well as we could.
Typical early speculation. I’m thinking that at #6 overall, we’ll probably still have the chance to get the best kicker in the entire country.
But getting paid big bucks to do so.
except Kiper apparently thinks we still run a 4-3. Werner has been explicitly stated as a pure 4-3 DE (even by Kiper himself).
so, we’re technically better.
might want to trade up to be sure.
Mingo makes most sense but I still like Milliner myself.
I think Mingo is speed-only and will have a big-time adjustment period to do anything in the NFL. He’s as big of a risk as Ansoh.
My ideal situation is actually trading back to 14-16, picking up a 2nd and a 1st for ’14 and drafting Okafor. I don’t see much of a dropoff from the top guys to him.
I agree on Milliner. Also really like Moore.
I say no, sit tight, the total panic moves on draft day left with Holmgren. Unless there’s another Alex Henery on the board. So maybe better ask Garry about that.
Emeka Okafor? J/K Anyways not familiar with him as we get start getting closer to the draft I’ll familiarize myself with “other” names besides the most mentioned.
I completely hate the idea of trading down but maybe like everything else this time will be different. I have a bad reaction to the “building depth” vs “impact player” because all this franchise has done is build depth for 13 years now. Meanwhile impact players are continually missed.
I like trading down in the 1st and getting Ogletree OLB/ILB. 2nd round is Amerson CB/FS, 3rd is Jordan Reed TE.
Please just don’t let Banner run the show….At least give Chud, Norm, and Horton the opportunity to have an input on who we draft….trade down pick up an extra 2nd rounder…
1st round:Dion Jordan, Chance Warmack, D.J. Fluker or Kenny Vaccaro in that order
2nd round:Ezekial Ansah, Sam Montgomery, Alex Okafor
No second-rounder people.
There is only one Alex Henery, and he ain’t coming to Cleveland; though I would personally trade our entire draft to Philly, Ditka style (or Gangnam style, I don’t care), along with the Rock and Roll HOF, that hideous rubber stamp art piece, and Dead Man’s Curve, if we could get him. But, we all know they wouldn’t do it. Just another case of Philly screwing Cleveland. First Chip Kelly, then this. Oh, I hate Chip Kelly, with his wee beedy eyes . . .
#AlexHeneryFanClubIsTakingApplications
Minnesota is still laughing over that one.
If we can get an impact player at 6, a guy who can be a difference-maker, then we have to take him. Have to.
But if no one fills that bill when our turn rolls around, then I wouldn’t mind trading down for someone’s 1st and 2nd.
Hey, don’t dip the Chip, seeing as you know we’d be composing sonnets if he’d only deigned to drag his massive ego here. Certainly no need get so personal – those eyes aren’t beedy [sic], they’re partially obscured by fat deposits caused by his keeping company for decades with other pudgy coaches with coffee breath rather than the standard absentee wife who would have warned him that he might appear slightly more youthful and attractive in his next interview if he reduced his daily donut intake to 6.
Damontre Moore, Jarvis Jones, Bjoern Werner, Barkevious Mingo, Dion Jordan and Zeke Ansah. We should have Ray Horton and his coaches/scouts just hammer away at scouting these six guys to find out which one we should go after. Odds are that at least 4 of them will be available at #6 and we CANNOT afford to draft the guy who will bust. Whether its health concerns, poor scheme fit or just the fact that he won’t translate well to the NFL, we need to know which guys won’t fit as much as we need to know which guys will fit. Our focus needs to be on those 6 guys, and I’m about 75% sure one of them will be a Clevland Brown, just hoping we get the right one.
Once again, Damontre Moore, Jarvis Jones, Bjoern Werner, Barkevious Mingo, Dion Jordan and Zeke Ansah
Oh my stars. *beady
I’ve lost the edge. I’m turning in my wings.
Forget it, shake it off. The Club needs you.
Alex Okafor dominated the Alamo Bowl and was really Texas’ most consistent performer (Vaccaro is the S that gets a ton of mention and has a high ceiling, but I’d take Okafor if given a choice).
But I’ve got a wife and kids to think about.
Dee Milliner
anyways, let’s throw out the idea of giving the Rams #6 for #16+#22+4th rounder. Rams really need help on OL, so maybe they love Fisher or Warmack?
#16+#22 would give us lots of options. OLBs: Jordan, Ansah, Mingo (at least 1 would still be there). Vaccaro(S), Okafor(OLB), Kawan Short(DE), Xavier Rhodes(CB), Tyler Eifert(TE)
We’re your family now, son.
That’s my favorite idea ever. Like literally. 16 could be an OLB, and 22 could be TE or CB. Also, 16 would be right before Pittsburgh (SUCK IT), so we could make sure Jarvis Jones (might fall due to health reports) doesn’t fall to them
the only flaw is that the Rams need to really, really like one of the OL prospects to trade up like that for an OL.
Fisher might fall madly in love with Warmack. Think STL needs a guard right? Maybe if Joeckel falls (he won’t get past Philly unless Kelly goes underachieving QB).
Wouldn’t that be awesome? Chip and Pat draft a bust at QB and LJ drops to us and we score a king’s ransom!
We need you, Garry. Yesterday Harv casually, off-handedly, almost disdainfully mentioned that he liked the cut of someone’s “gib” [sic].
I immediately sensed one of his insidious, diabolical traps, and I didn’t rise to the bait. I waited for back-up, but none came.
Strap it on, soldier.
wow, Harv went all “[sic]” on your ass.
Kenny Vaccaro please.
Except that is not the reason there is no second round pick in the 2013 draft.
It was selecting Josh Gordon in the second round of the supplemental draft that caused the Browns to forfeit their second rounder in this draft.
The trade up for Richardson cost a fourth, fifth, and seventh.
Draft a TE at #22 after trading down are you serious? WTH people may as well draft another QB too. I swear all of these past front offices are rubbing off on you guys.
My man used my favorite two words: IMPACT PLAYER! There will be one at #6 and the Cleveland Browns could use one. Only way I move down is if I can find a Clevelandlike front office who wants to send me an additional first or multiple picks and I move down a few spots but not a drop of 5-10 spots. If the Browns have someone in mind in round 2 then package some later picks and move up.
um, that was my personal spelling, a family tradition. [Feeling a little sic]