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March 21, 2012After signing Frostee Rucker and Juqua Parker the Browns might not be finished with its defense in free agency just yet. Scout.com attributes to league sources that the Browns, Colts and Raiders are all interested in the 27-year-old former 49er and Bengal, linebacker Manny Lawson.
Lawson is a former first rounder out of NC State. He is 6’5″ and listed at 240 pounds. Tell me if this sounds familiar. He was drafted by the 49ers as they transitioned from the 4-3 defense to the 3-4 after playing his college career as a defensive end. Unlike Browns experiments with guys like David Veikune, Lawson was able to make the transition pretty well.
We’ll see if anything develops between the Browns and Manny Lawson. He signed with the Bengals last season for 1 year and $3 million. Who knows if the Browns are looking to add some depth, or if they might have concerns about Scott Fujita’s potential discipline from the league due to the Saints’ bounty program.
[Related: Scott Fujita named in Saints bounty investigation]
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speaking of LBers. my Texan friend fans are in uproar tonight. Demeco Ryans traded for a mid-round pick to the Eagles.
they have now let Mario, Winston, and Demeco walk for nearly nothing in return. Owen Daniels being the last remaining piece of the 2006 draft still on the team (weird those guys are all ’06 guys – and they were mainstay pieces until now).
imagine the uproar around here if we let JoeT, Cribbs, and DQ walk for 1 mid-round pick in return. especially when after making the playoffs for the first time ever, they were fully invested in having a SB run (they still very well could but it’s definitely gotten harder now)
Why weren’t they interested in DeMeco Ryans?
So we could have had Brandon Marshall and Demeco Ryans both without giving up anything more than a 3rd round pick. I don’t know the extent of Ryans injury recovery but he is worth the risk in my eyes. Once we signed Rucker the Browns aren’t worried about character issues obviously so I think we missed out on some real talent here with Marshall and Ryans.
He plays middle linebacker
‘even if we had to run some 3-4 defense’
Yes let’s change our scheme and spend money on a player we don’t need.
We just signed our MLB to a well-deserved long-term deal. We have no need for DeMeco Ryans.
Nice safe deal for Philly. People around here use the Eagles as the poster child for not participating in free agency but I’ll be interested to see what they do in year two with all the new guys. I think they’ll be improved but they better be in that division.
I’m sure their fans aren’t happy, but they should get a compensatory pick next year at the end of the third round for Mario, and probably another at the end of the fourth for Winston, so they will at least get something. If we had enough talent on our team to let guys like this walk and still expect to return to the playoffs, I’d gladly take that over our current mess.
One of the few things still left in FA are linebackers who could start. It would be nice to go get one considering that Fujita is on the decline and also may be suspended. The guy I’d target as our WOLB is Erin Henderson. He’s coming off a good season and is only 26.
So you think that it’s easy to get talent like him. You and I totally disagree in philosophy. My philosophy is getting a ton of talent in here no matter what . I hate coaches and executives that can’t adapt to their talent. You think just because your system works with a group of players that it can work with others. Go ahead and have your pathetic decision making that we can’t take a guy who is an all pro because Dqwell Jackson is signed. Oh you mean the guy that has missed 2 out of the last 3 seasons because of injury. Good job not having any depth at positions and assuming Dqwell will stay healthy. When Demeco Ryans goes for a 4th rounder you are buying low. Anytime at any point if you can buy a player low you buy them. It’s just good business. But in your mind Cleveland is loaded with talent so why should we do that. Cleveland has the least amount of talent in the league across the board arguably Get a clue. You think coaches have 5 years to hand pick every position to fit their style. Your a dinosaur if you think that. If you can’t adapt to talent then your not good.Give good coaches a lot of talent and they find ways to make it work. Look at all you fools liking this comment thinking that Cleveland shouldn’t go after this type of talent because mr. ripped pectoral is a staple to not get hurt. Not to mention you could trade Demeco Ryans for a 2nd rounder once he has fully recovered. No wonder we are where we are most of you guys are clueless.
To a well deserved long term deal. I disagree. He has missed 2 out of the last 3 years and you think it’s well deserved. Got it.
DeMeco has injury concerns as well. Perhaps we are limiting ourselves to 1 injury concerned MLB?
If our team is loaded with talent than maybe I don’t take on the risk. Our team needs to try to take advantage of buying low for the big picture. We could trade him for a 2nd or 3rd round pick when he is healthy. I am looking down the road for payoff.
And your idea of doing this is switching back to a 3-4 to incorporate Ryans? That’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard.
And your idea is depending on a guy to not get hurt that has been hurt for 2 out of 3 seasons is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. We are not making a huge commitment we are giving up a 4th rounder to get a player who will beat out your starting middle linebacker that you can drop and save money in a couple years if you have to. That’s cool if you don’t believe in depth and think none of your starters get hurt. I’m sure that 4th rounder will end up being an all pro player. You don’t think teams run all kinds of different looks and you don’t think Jauron would want to have an all pro linebacker on his team to work with. Yeah your real astute in your thinking.
name me 1 veteran MLB that has been traded for a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
the NBA trades vets and you can get value. it is very, very rare in the NFL. look to Houston-Mario and Indy-Peyton.
usually you get value trading young guys coming to the end of their rookie deals if anything (at premium positions). even then, the timing can be off and you still get nothing (GB-Flynn)
http://www.nfl.com/player/jonathangoff/1714/profile
Goff tore his ACL in Sept after a very good ’10 season. Perhaps a sneaky good sign coming up?
There has not been many trades for great players in the nfl in general not just linebackers. Demeco Ryans is worth more than a 4th rounder and that is buying low and that’s all I know. If you think that we can spend our 4th rounder and get a proven commodity like demeco then that’s up to you to decide. I am all for getting the Anquan Boldins(3rd,4th, and 5th) like Balitmore did or Randy Moss’s(4th) like New England did or Aaron Curry’s for a 7th rounder for the upside of those deals. And to me this qualifies that type of deal when you buy a guy low.
actually, we know that Demeco Ryans is worth exactly a 4th round pick. a player is worth what the market will bear and he was just traded 🙂
further: you get a veteran that is on a higher paying salary, usually ending their contract sooner (UFA not RFA) and has been disappointing or injured (reason for being willing to trade).
And I guess Randy Moss was worth the 4th rounder when he had 23 touchdowns with New England when he was traded from Oakland. If you can’t understand why Demeco Ryans is buying low right now because of his injury that’s cool. My whole thing is we could have Anquan Boldin and Brandon Marshall for our starting receivers if we bought low. I am all for bringing in talent in here every time you can buy low until our team has enough talent to not franchise our kicker for 2 years in a row.
A lot of contracts have a lot of up front guaranteed money that has already been paid and are really good deals by the time they get to their last couple years of contract. People sometimes only need a change of scenery and I know that 3rd and 4th rounders don’t make as much impact as proven commodities for the most part.
yes, he was worth a 4th rounder because he gave up for multiple years in Oakland. sort of like how after that nice year he gave up in NE and was tossed around the league, spent a year out of the NFL and now has to earn a way onto SFs roster.
that depends on position. usually in the 1st year you are correct. however, long-term I’m not so sure and there are some positions like OG, LB, S, TE, FB that are barely looked at before the middle rounds.
Oakland traded a 1st rounder to get him and then Bellichick bought low the next year because Oaklands qb situation was a joke. Andrew Walter was the qb that stunk. It was a great pick up and I wish we would do this at times.
I disagree. The only position that you listed that might not get looked at is FB but the other ones people go after earlier than 3rd round.