WFNY Roundtable

Top 5 goes to the movies: WFNY Roundtable

List your Top 5 football movies of all-time with a brief explanation

Craig:

  1. The Waterboy! This is just pure fun and I love Adam Sandler because I was brought up in a time where his greatest movies just slayed me.
  2. Remember the Titans because if I’m also a big fan of Disney movies.
  3. The Replacements was another really fun one.
  4. Jerry Maguire! Do you think this isn’t a football movie? You’re wrong. It is a football movie, and it’s making my list whether you like it or not.
  5. Varsity Blues because screw Rudy. I don’t want your life.

Bode:

  1. Little Giants – Everything about this movie is wonderful and funny and fantastic right down to The Annexation of Puerto Rico.
  2. The Waterboy – Sandler’s comedies only work with an over-the-top central character and there is none more over-the-top than Bobby Boucher.
  3. The Program – The movie is really a better idea than it was executed, but it hit on every major tenet of collegiate football including those that had been ignored in most movies to that time (such as both steroid abuse and covering it up).
  4. Remember the Titans – It is impossible to have a list of great football movies without one that is emotional. This is the best of that bench though We are Marshal is close.
  5. Any Given Sunday – Or should it be the Last Boy Scout? Such tough decisions to make here.

Joe:

  1. Remember the Titans– It is one of the most iconic sports movies of all-time. Who doesn’t cry when Gerry dies and the team starts singing, “Na Na Na Na.”
  2. Varsity Blues– Mox, Coach Kilmer, Billy Bob and the late great Paul Walker as Lance Harbor. We all wish to have that Mox moment.
  3. Friday Night Lights– The movie gives probably a closer than you expect look at Texas high school football.
  4. Rudy– Though, Rudy was offsides.
  5. We Are Marshall– A movie about perseverance. Who doesn’t like that about a movie.

Jim:

  1. Rudy- Look, Mikey from goonies fought against the tide, and while he didn’t find the treasure, I’m not sure I’ll ever watch a Notre Dame game, and not chant “RUDY” at the top of my lungs, to piss everyone off around me. C’mon…MIKEY FROM GOONIES!
  2. The Replacements- So, Gene Hackman is the coach…and Jimmy Chitwood hits the three to win…wait…that’s not this movie. But, Keanu Reaves apparently can’t get enough of being a former Ohio State University QB, and while this movie isn’t a classic…it’s still a solid, funny movie with a great little cast.
  3. Jerry Maguire- Craig stole my thunder. There’s nothing about this movie that I don’t love. Cuba Gooding Jr. as WR Rod Tidwell, catches the jist of weird WR attitudes. The scene in which he gets Tom Cruise screaming, which costs him every client, is as good a scene as any sports movie.
  4. The Longest Yard (the 1974 Burt Reynolds version)- When Burt Reynolds Paul Crewe cranks Ray Nitschke’s Bogdanski in the crotch to get him out of the game…well…doesn’t that scream hit? Reynolds, a former halfback at Florida St. was perfect in this movie. If you haven’t seen it, you should.
  5. All the Right Moves-Kid Tom Cruise, who just broke out in Risky Business, playing in a small Pittsburgh football town, looking to get a big deal. And yeah, COACH WAS COACH! (I hope to hell someone gets that.

Dave:

  1. North Dallas Forty: Someone has to be a connoisseur here…Classic tale of the everyday struggles of your not-great but not-terrible semi-washed up pro football player. A window in what it was like to play pro football, and the struggles that brings.
  2. The Program: I refer to it as Any Given Saturday, but it came out before Any Given Sunday. Very silly film but super entertaining. I have more thoughts on that here.
  3. Rudy: It has become a cliche, but it really is an inspiring story. And I don’t know how anyone can not be hyped up when Rudy gets the sack at the end. (spoilers!)
  4. Varsity Blues:Texas high school football. It is iconic. This movie is entertaining, fun, and the football action is really really well shot. It has some inconsistencies, but overall a great watch…learn more here.
  5. The Replacements: Genuinely a fun movie to watch. It takes some suspension of disbelief to go with the whole plot, but Gene Hackman is great, Keanu is great, and a great supporting cast makes it worth the watch…oddly enough, I have more thoughts here.

List your Top 5 movie / television quarterbacks with a brief explanation

Craig:

  1. Any Given Sunday wasn’t tops on my list, but I’m calling out Willie Beamen for sure.
  2. Shane Falco because Neo.
  3. Frank Cushman because Jerry Maguire is a football movie.
  4. Bo Callahan because it’s clearly Connor Cook.
  5. Mox because…

Bode:

  1. Paul Crewe (Burt Reynolds version, obviously) – The anti-Beamen quarterback.
  2. Willie Beamen – most entertaining quarterback of all-time. You wouldn’t want him to actually be the quarterback for your team but that doesn’t matter here.
  3. Johnny Utah – not the Keanu Reeves quarterback character you were expecting, but the one you deserve.
  4. Sunshine – no explanation necessary.
  5. Junior Floyd – if he’s good enough for Icebox, then he’s good enough to be on this list.

Joe:

  1. Lance Harbor, Varsity Blues– RIP Paul Walker.
  2. Jonathon “Mox” Moxon, Varsity Blues– The underdog who steps up.
  3. Ronnie “Sunshine” Bass, Remember the Titans– He flipped that rusher over his back like a champ.
  4. Shane Falco, The Replacements– Your local scraper of hulls on boats to football hero.
  5. Paul Crewe, The Longest Yard– Whether its Adam Sandler or Burt Reynolds, Paul is probably the toughest quarterback on the list.

Jim:

  1. Paul Crewe, Mean Machine, The Longest Yard (1974)- See my explanation for the movie. Crewe did the dirty things to win games. Call him the Jim McMahon…before Jim McMahon
  2. Shane Falco, The Replacements- This coulda been you Art Schlichter. This coulda been you. “Pain heels, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever.” I mean, is that an all time quote or what?
  3. George Plimpton, Paper Lion- It’s Alan Alda. I mean…ALAN ALDA!!!
  4. Paul Blake, Necessary Roughness- I’m pretty sure Scott Bakula was hoping to “leap” out of this movie, in which he was an old dude playing college, with a rocket arm. Bad movie, but I’ll take Bakula any day of the week.
  5. Johnathan “Mox” Moxon, Varsity Blues- We all know this was Dawson…you can’t tell me any different.

Dave: 

  1. Matt Saracen, Friday Night Lights: Thrust into the starting line-up after the injury of star QB Jason Street, “6” comes out of no where to lead the team…and date the coach’s daughter.
  2. Jack “Cap” RooneyAny Given Sunday: Often overlooked in Any Given Sunday because of Willie Beaman, is how good of a QB Cap really was. One of the best scenes of the film is a montage of Cap running the offense set to Use Me by Bill Withers. In the film it shows Willie that there is more to the game than raw athletic talent.
    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_JU9rl_in8
  3. Shane Falco: He is a great movie QB because he never is the actual hero in the movie. In the end, the team wins almost in spite of him, not because of him. A great concept in an often cheesy genre
  4. Vince Howard, Friday Night Lights: OK, I really liked the TV show Friday Night Lights ok. Vince was a great character and he took a great journey on that show while dealing with a ton of problems, both self created and inherited. PLEASE GO WATCH FNL!
  5. Lance Harbor, Varsity Blues: Star QB, head cheerleader girlfriend, king of the school: Not an Asshole! Supportive of everyone, great coach. RIP Paul Walker.

List your Top 5 movie / television characters with a brief explanation

Craig: I’m sticking to television. Including movies and TV is just too hard.

  1. Dexter. I know that show went off the rails a bit at the end, but I’ll never forget the show made me feel at the beginning thanks to Michael C. Hall’s portrayal of Dexter.
  2. Detective Andy Sipowicz from NYPD Blue was one of my first favorite characters watching TV as an “adult” of sorts. The show began when I was just 14, but the show ran all the way until I was 26. There’s no replacing a character like that.
  3. Daenerys Targaryen, the Mother of Dragons. There might be some recency bias for Game of Thrones here, but I think I need to include her. The way she’s developed from sweet victim to powerful contender for the throne is incredible to watch.
  4. Walter White because that might be the greatest character in the history of television if it were not for…
  5. Tony Soprano is likely the greatest television character of all time and it’s not even close. When you consider the impact of that character and that show in terms of cultural catalyst, it’s truly immeasurable.

Bode: Going to have some fun with this category and just go with Seinfeld minor characters. Seinfeld is available on Hulu, kids.

  1. Art Vandelay – The most essential character to the show that you never met.
  2. Babu – Oh, poor Babu. Such an innocent man whose life is troubled by the gang.
  3. Puddy – On a show with so much crazy, the guy with the deadpan lines stands out.
  4. Mr. Peterman – Most of the show’s best moments were when one of the main characters was purposefully or inadvertently taken down a peg.
  5. Keith Hernandez – because he is Keith Hernandez.

Joe:

  1. Shawn Spencer, Psych– My favorite TV show of all time has my favorite TV/movie character of all time. His dialogue and references toward almost anything is so quick and witty.
  2. Leroy Jethro Gibbs, NCIS– The toughest man on television.
  3. Batman, The Dark Knight Trilogy– The best Batman of all time, Christian Bale. Best Batman movies ever made, too.
  4. Burton “Gus” Guster, Psych– Shawn’s smart sidekick who has some awesome quirks and quick, witty dialogue like Shawn.
  5. Jack McCoy, Law & Order– The best lawyer on television.

Jim: This is impossible…just impossible…going with TV characters, and not guaranteeing this is my top five…but it’ll be five of my favorite.

  1. James T. Kirk, Star Trek- Look, I don’t care if you think I’m a geek. Captain Kirk is cool.
  2. Cosmo Kramer, Seinfeld- You can pick any character, but man, never been a Kramer…ever.
  3. Jerry Seinfeld, Seinfeld- Yeah, it’s a theme. Seinfeld, the show, is Seinfeld, because of Seinfeld.
  4. Hawkeye Pierce, M*A*S*H- I doubt there’s going to be M*A*S*H love here, but that show was so far ahead of it’s time, and Alan Alda was just special from Day 1. Like Seinfeld though, this was an ensemble.
  5. Jed Bartlet, West Wing- Bartlet isn’t even my favorite character on that show, but I can’t put anyone ahead of him here. He was just incredibly special, and Martin Sheen is as good as it gets. Bartlet is the president we deserve…every election. In Jed Bartlet’s building, when The President stands, nobody sits…

Dave: 

  1. .Eric “Coach” Taylor, Friday Night Lights: Inspiring, level headed, smart, loving husband, but not without his flaws. Friday Night Lights is one of the best depictions of the ups and downs of a good marriage on TV as well.
  2. Tammy Taylor, Friday Night Lights: Really this is a tie for number one, but I can’t figure out the formatting. She is a loving wife, excellent at her job, and the other half of one the best depictions of marriage on TV.
  3. Frank Reynolds, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia: Frank is a man who left his corporate life behind to just “Get weird with it.”
  4. Jimmy McGinty/Saul Goodman, Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul: When you see Bob Odenkirk cast in a role, you think it is going to be all comedy, but Bob has serious acting chops. He can handle humor, outrageousness and emotion with the best of them.
  5. Philip Jennings, The Americans: It was tough to pick a character on The Americans as none of them are consistently good/evil throughout the series, but Philip is as close to a hero as you can find.

List your Top 5 movie / television quotes with a brief explanation

Bode: Continuing the tangent, the best lines by minor characters on Seinfeld.

  1. “Hello, Jerry.” -Newman
  2. “Talk to me, babe.” -Puddy
  3. “Then, in the distance, I heard the bulls. I began running as fast as I could. Fortunately, I was wearing my Italian cap toe oxfords. Sophisticated yet different; nothing to make a huge fuss about. Rich dark brown calfskin leather. Matching leather vent. Men’s whole and half sizes 7 through 13. Price: $135.00.” -Mr. Peterman
  4. “That’s totally inappropriate. It’s lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous!” -Jackie Chiles
  5. “You bad man! You very very bad man!” -Babu

Joe: 

  1. “All is well, remain calm”- Chip Diller, Animal House- Kevin Bacon’s funny quote while getting stampeded. A quote everyone can use in life.
  2. “Are you not entertained?”- Maximus, Gladiator- Are you not entertained?
  3. “You hear about Pluto? That’s messed up, right?”- Gus, Psych. Pluto is a planet period.
  4. “You think darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding.” – Bane, The Dark Knight Rises- I just love me some Bane.
  5. “You’re not Charles Barkley. Just a wannabe who looks like him. Sorry break out. You shouldn’t even be here. Be gone. Wannabe be gone.”- Girl taunting Barkley, Space Jam- I love Space Jam and the quote is one of the moments in the movie I will always remember.

Jim: Again, staying with the TV side, and just thinking of the first five that come to mind:

  1. “It’s a dog-eat-dog world Sammy, and I’m wearing milk bone underwear.” Norm from “Cheers,” with one of his classic entrances after the bar yells “Norm!”
  2. “In the future, if you’re wondering…”Crime…boy, I don’t know” is when I decided to kick your ass.” President Jed Bartlet to Governor Rob Ritchie, after Ritchie responds with that after Mark Harmon’s Secret Service character was killed in a robbery. Not my favorite quote, but just the latest one I watched.
  3. “I’m out!” Kramer in Seinfeld, when he quickly lost the bet in the contest, in which Elaine, Kramer, George and Jerry compete to see who is the “Master of your Domain.” I laughed for about three hours after that one.
  4. “How you doin’?” Joey Tribiani in friends. Look, hate on friends all you want, but it was a great show, and Tribiani was fantastic. My favorite “How you doin'” was during “The One in Vegas,” when Rachel was drunk with a sharpie mustache and beard, and she replied “I’m doin’ good baby, how you doin’?”
  5. “Clear eyes, full hearts, can’t lose.” Coach Eric Taylor, Friday Night Lights. C’mon…who doesn’t say that to whoever will listen?

Dave:

  1.  Are you trying to say Jesus Christ can’t hit a curve-ball? – Eddie Harris, Major League
  2. I hate Illinois Nazis – Jake Blues, The Blues Brothers
  3. Every man at some point in his life is gonna lose a battle. He’s gonna fight and he’s gonna lose. But what makes him a man, is that in the midst of that battle he does not lose himself. – Eric Taylor, Friday Night Lights
  4. Well, that’s because Harold Holt is a tool. He’s a cake-eater, he’s a clown, he’s a bad station chief, and I don’t like to cast aspersions on a guy, but he’s going to get us all killed. – Gust Avrakotos, Charlie Wilson’s War
  5. Hey! It’s all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And I’m gonna need ’bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State. – Irwin R Fletcher, Fletch