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October 31, 2017Your Cleveland Browns Have Done It Again: While We’re Waiting
November 1, 2017Perhaps the most active trade deadline in NFL history has come and gone quietly for the Cleveland Browns. That’s not to say opportunity wasn’t there for the Browns to make a move to impact their currently dreadful quarterback situation. Browns fans watched the San Francisco 49ers swipe Jimmy Garoppolo for a second-round pick, so anymore quarterback news was sure to fire up the masses. Enter ESPN’s Adam Schefter right before today’s 4pm deadline. Schefter sent out a slew of tweets referencing a possible deal between the Browns and Bengals centered around Cincinnati’s backup quarterback AJ McCarron.
Bengals and Browns tried, but failed, to complete trade for QB AJ McCarron before deadline, per sources. Deal was “close”; not finalized.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) October 31, 2017
The deal seems to have firmly been in place before something happened. At first, news was unclear whether the Bengals failed to make it happen or the Browns. Schefter later cleared it up as it was the Browns who decided against the move.
Bengals and Browns actually agreed to AJ McCarron trade at 3:55 pm, per source involved. Bengals approved trade to NFL, Browns did not.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) October 31, 2017
There is a clear connection between head coach Hue Jackson and McCarron as Jackson was formerly the Bengals offensive coordinator prior to taking the helm in Cleveland. McCarron will be entering free agency after the 2017 season – whether restricted or unrestricted is still to be decided. He could potentially join the Browns in the offseason as a free agent, but this doesn’t make up for what happened in the minutes leading up to Tuesday’s deadline.
It remains unclear what the Browns plan to do with their quarterback situation, but it is obvious they are looking for answers. The news also displays they lack the necessary faith in current placeholder DeShone Kizer. Browns quarterbacks have passed out 17 interceptions in just eight games, and the group is under immense fan base scrutiny due to the front office’s decisions to pass on Carson Wentz and Deshaun Watson. It’s currently unclear which side of the front office or coaching staff divide this decision to pass on McCarron came from. The Browns will set their sights on solving the problem in the 2018 offseason, whether it be through the draft, free agency, or via a trade.
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Psch, He’s no JR Smith
WTF
If the compensation was a 2nd and a 3rd I’m glad they messed up at the deadline. Overpaying for a guy with no real history is too Brownsy of a move.
They tried to trade for a backup?
And when questioned, Sashi will likely say there wasn’t any talks for AJ McCarron.
I’m really skeptical about this rumor. AJ may be better than Deshone due to experience, but I doubt that he alone would dramatically improve the offense despite having no/underdeveloped playmakers to throw the ball to.
One rumor states the Browns “celebrated” to early and “forgot” to submit their trade info to the NFL. Or maybe they realized that spending multiple picks at Rentals R US may have been too much to give up at this time.
By the way who started these rumors anyway and does he/she have a great track record of being right?
Secret WFNY Ninjacam coverage from Berea at the trade deadline…
Hue: Woohoo! We did it! And only for a second and third round pick! You’re really going to like AJ.
Jimmah: Sashi, call it in!
Sashi: https://i.imgur.com/R4hux.gif
“The Process” almost included acquiring AJ McCarron? Way to find a way to throw some additional bags of garbage into the fire. And to think I thought the bye week was going to be a slow week.
Who has an appeal pending with the NFL to become an unrestricted FA at the end of this season. A five year old with a magic 8 ball can make better decisions than these guys.
hi LUNCH … i heard the Browns called the trade in after 4:00pm , they were denied , they protested/appealed & were denied again … don’t know if it’s true or not.
the Browns have a nice stock-pile of draft picks & this wouldn’t have been a horrible move , a 2nd & a 3rd seems a bit much … but I’m glad it didn’t happen.
the biggest issue is there is a gray area on whether McCarron will an unrestricted FA or a restricted FA due to an injury his rookie year & whether he has enough time in to be an unrestricted FA. if the Browns can / want to sign McCarron as a FA next year it won’t cost them any draft picks.
better to wait until next year … giving up 2 picks right now seems a little desperate.
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i wouldn’t mind having to look at his wife on the sidelines … just sayin’.
Neither would Brent Musburger.
Somehow, the Browns’ organizational incompetence worked in their favor this time.
Total speculation here, but…
Hue kicked and screamed for Sashi to go get a quarterback, especially after seeing what was dealt for Grabapablo. Sashi worked out a deal in last minutes (whether he overpaid or not is a separate issue entirely). Deal had to go up the ladder to Jimmy because he still hasn’t made up his mind on current staff. The green light from Jimmy didn’t make it back to Sashi/front-office in time to submit to NFL. Trade rejected.
Total speculation here, but…
Hue kicked and screamed for Sashi to go get a quarterback, especially after seeing what was dealt for Grabapablo. Sashi worked out a deal in last minutes (whether he overpaid or not is a separate issue entirely). Deal had to go up the ladder to Jimmy because he still hasn’t made up his mind on current staff. The green light from Jimmy didn’t make it back to Sashi/front-office in time to submit to NFL. Trade rejected
I wish I could upvote this 1000 times.
Counter-speculation:
Hue kicks and screams and makes a few phone calls to his own connections because he wants his guy AJ. The HBT humors him enough to have some conversations with the Bengals but a deal is never close, because trading a 2nd and 3rd for McCarron is insanity on its face. Hue tells his Cinci buddies he thinks he can talk them into it and Cinci files the paperwork out of sheer hope, but the Browns don’t follow up because they were never going to do this unless McCarron was available for a bag of potato chips.
hi CHRIS … this is possible … i think the gray area of whether McCarron will be an unrestricted FA also played into the thinking.
“Huemors”
Ha! Puntastic!
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Well, we uh, we didn’t get everything that we wanted, but… we negotiated hard and… we got these… coupons to Bennigan’s! And… free bubblegum… for every Bengals fan. These coupons entitle every Bengals fan to a free meal at Bennigan’s. With the purchase of a meal at equal or greater value, of course.
Orrrr….
Awwwww, oh no, Hue. The fax machine jammed. We’ll just have to keep those picks. Sorrrrrry…
My precious, my precious…
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Hue: “You turned our weight room into a fu***ng supercomputer, and you’re still using a damn fax machine?”
what to do about QB ?? … c’mon man , any of us on this page could do it :
1) acquire a veteran QB next season … you either back the Brinks truck up to Kirk Cousins house or you can go get a guy like McCarron or Bridgewater.
2) if we end-up with the #1 overall , ALSO ACQUIRE THE #2 OVERALL pick (moving up with our other 1st round pick) … you give up 2019 1st round pick & 2 of our 3 2nd round picks this year … that should do it.
3) draft both RB S.Barkley & QB L.Jackson
4) sign a FA WR : J.Matthews , D.Adams , S.Watkins or Pryor
5) draft a WR with our remaining 2nd round pick
6) we’re on our way
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We’ll never know unless the Browns tell us.
yeah , i imagine the press will corner Sashi pretty soon to find out … should be good.
#literally