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Derrick Rose to the Cavs would be good: While We’re Waiting

Happy Friday everyone. Happy to be here talking to you, and I’m leading with Jeff Nomina’s video. I hope you all enjoyed it as much as I did. By the way, in case you hadn’t noticed, we’re starting to build the video channel a bit. Hope you enjoy them because we’re having fun making them.

Signing Derrick Rose is a good basketball idea…

There’s really no downside to adding Derrick Rose to the Cleveland Cavaliers in July. Given the alternatives, there’s no player of the caliber of Derrick Rose that the Cavaliers could possibly add to their roster right now that could bring as much to the team. None of this is a guarantee that Rose will be the key to a championship, but there wasn’t a player this off-season – including Paul George or Jimmy Butler – that would have magically made the Cavaliers favorites over the Warriors.

The alternatives make the case even more obvious. The Cavaliers had a back end of the roster with Kay Felder, the D-Will twins, and Iman Shumpert. Derrick Rose played for an awful Knicks team and had 12 games in which he scored 25 or more points. You can’t just copy those points and paste them into a Cavaliers box score or anything, but on any given game day Derrick Rose can give you meaningful scoring in the mold of the Warriors bench.

Obviously, there are some things that we don’t know that much about. It’s hard to know just how leery of Rose we should be based on his off-court troubles even though his sexual assault court case went in his favor. That’s not the kind of thing that I feel like I have information to weigh in on, so I’ll just stick to the basketball. From that perspective, it’s kind of a no-brainer to add Derrick Rose if you can have him as opposed to many other alternatives at the Cavaliers’ disposal.

And yet, I spent the whole day yesterday listening to sports talk radio debate this as if it’s not a good idea. Derrick Rose is injury prone. Derrick Rose doesn’t fit with the Cavaliers. It’s as if because Cavs fans can’t do Ty Lue’s job and fit it all together in the abstract before training camp even begins that it’s destined to fail. Stop overthinking it. Derrick Rose is a good basketball player and better than many alternatives – including many the Cavaliers would be forced to use if they didn’t sign Rose.

The Defiant Ones was incredible…

HBO’s four-part docu-series – The Defiant Ones – about Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Dre’s rises to fame and power was incredibly well done. Having a subject matter that includes Iovine, Dre, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty, Nine Inch Nails, NWA, Snoop Dogg, Puff Daddy, and about a hundred others makes it seem like it would be easy to make a good doc. It was the way in which it was all weaved together that really made the difference.

Director Allen Hughes absolutely crushed it. He hopped back and forth between Iovine and Dr. Dre’s early days. They eventually crossed paths and worked together, but this game of subject matter tennis persisted for the whole movie until (spoiler alert) we end where we began with the sale of Beats to Apple.

For many, Dr. Dre’s story is pretty familiar. Even as someone who was pretty aware of Iovine’s career, I learned a lot about the ups and downs that I hadn’t been privy to in prior articles. It was a little bit long at four hour-long episodes, but I never found myself bored or not wanting to finish.

Here’s the trailer.

  • RGB
  • RGB

    LBJ therapy has proven effective in the past. Maybe it could work on Rose.

  • Chris

    By my check, only one Cavalier has ever been an All Star in each of his first two seasons… Kyrie, LeBron, and that tall NASCAR commentator from UNC were each All Stars in years two and three.

    Folks… the famous John Johnson. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5cd9fdb3adb39fd60aac53bca55eb3001d0207deaefb25a8b02dffc3fc0ff653.png

  • Chris

    He’d be a hell of a pickup… particularly at the rumored price-point. Now only if that chair-of-a-GM can somehow talk him into it..

  • tigersbrowns2

    excellent choice , RGB … i’ll always remember Rogers & what might’ve been. i also remember Len Bias died 8 days before Rogers from the same thing … and Bias never got to play for the Celtics & this really set them back for a few a years … what a waste of great talent.

  • woofersus

    I loved it immediately. Everybody on TV and the radio is stuck on Derrick Rose the punchline, who went from MVP to delusional shell of a former MVP in 2yrs and proceeded to not get it for some time thereafter. But if you forget the former MVP who no longer exists and the lost years of injury and just think about what Derrick Rose is today, the story changes. The Cavs desperately needed somebody off the bench last year who could create and score without Lebron or Kyrie on the floor. And while I thought Lue should have gone full retro and pounded the ball inside with Love on every posession to create the kick-out opportunities for all those catch-and-shoot guys when they had to resort to Deron Williams at point, I can understand why he wouldn’t want to lose too many minutes with the big 3 on the floor all at once.

    Derrick Rose can still get into the paint and score the ball. He attempted less than 1 3pt shot per game last season, and he shot almost 49% from 2pt range. He can still draw the defense’s attention and kick the ball out to a shooter. He averaged 18 points per game last season and a PER of 17. Even if he’s a bad defender and a ball hog and thinks he’s playing himself into a max contract, ANYBODY who can score the ball off the bench consistently without Lebron setting them up is a massive upgrade.

  • tigersbrowns2

    i never really knew who Jimmy Iovine was until i saw him as a mentor on American Idol … then i came to realize what a big-time producer he really was. i’m not a hip-hop guy , but was impressed to learn that Iovine & Dre donated a $70 million endowment to USC to create the Jimmy Iovine & Andre Young Academy For The Arts … very cool.

  • chrisdottcomm

    “Signing Derrick Rose is a good basketball idea”

    … i mean i guess if we’re just gonna trade him back to the Knicks for Melo, sure.

  • chrisdottcomm

    Bron is the best basketball player on earth, not Jesus the healer. Rose needs someone to lay hands on him twice a year.

  • chrisdottcomm

    Episode 3 of The Defiant Ones could have been 8 hours long and I would have still wanted more.

  • RGB

    He does know some good docs in Miami…

  • Harv

    (sigh)

  • woofersus

    Funniest thing I saw on Twitter about this was somebody saying “Lebron can probably keep Rose healthy if he joins the cavs.” At least I think he was joking…

  • chrisdottcomm

    I’ll bet serious cash he/she was not joking.

  • Saggy

    Call me a jerk but things like Rogers and Bias don’t make me sad. I feel they got what they deserved.

    Hank Gathers makes me sad. Those other guys were fools.

  • tigersbrowns2

    hi SAGGY … i have to agree with you.

  • RGB

    Dixon took it pretty hard. I feels he should have done something about it.

  • CBiscuit

    3,120 days until NFL preseason? That’s quite a long layoff at the Factory…

  • jpftribe

    Truth.

  • Chris

    Feb 4, 2026. That’s the date of the Brown’s first Super Bowl Parade.

  • RGB

    That date falls just about into the right time of year.

  • Saggy

    Dr Dre has been allowed to control the narrative, giving himself WAAAAY too much credit. Ice Cube was the talent in that group, along with – ironically – Eazy-E, who is conveniently (for Dre) dead. I can still remember Dre’s weak ass verses on those albums. And I remember how Eazy killed him on that 187 track (Real MF G’s).

    Amazing how he’s been able to brand himself as some sort of Jay equivalent. Dude couldn’t carry Jay-Z’s soiled underwear.

  • Chris

    First Sunday of February 2026 is the 1st… Wednesday is the 4th. Cavs won on a Sunday and paraded on a Wednesday.

    I’m calling off work and booking a hotel.

  • CBiscuit

    Word. I’m in. But if frogs start falling from the sky and the Cuyahoga runs red, I’ll stay home.

  • woofersus

    Which sort of makes it even funnier

  • CBiscuit

    Jay Z soiled his underwear? Talk about burying the lede!

    Let’s blame Becky with the good hair for that one…

  • I’d take The Chronic over any record Jay has put out, without hesitation. And Dre the producer is unquestionably great, certainly beyond the work Jay has done in that department. Does Jay-Z have a greater quantity of hits as a rapper? No doubt. But saying that somehow puts him in a different stratosphere than Dre?

    http://gph.is/2inh0kE

  • CBiscuit

    I’m putting this date into my calendar just in case you have prophesied this (assuming we’re all still alive then and the Scout overlords haven’t overtaken us).

  • Chris
  • CBiscuit

    I don’t know what just happened, but I just pledged my kids’ college funds to Patreon.

  • Saggy

    you’re crazy. Chronic is good but the reason it’s good is because of Snoop Dogg. Jay’s original Blueprint album is a killer. Go check the lyrics – not even close. You must be from the west side.

    You only get half a bar.

  • RGB
  • Steve

    There’s a huge downside to signing Rose – you have to play him.

    We finally have our chance to get rid of the ball-dominant, no-defense PG who doesn’t fit well next to Lebron, and we’re going to bring in one who is just as ball-dominant, no defense, and can’t shoot threes to boot? Hard pass.

  • RGB
  • Steve

    Just wish he had said this a month ago when we could have gotten a Paul or Butler.

    Edit to add: I’m highly confident that Gilbert, with no GM to rein him in, will screw this up.

  • RGB

    Maybe it’s time to go HBT and trade everyone. LBJ, KI, Love…

  • Steve

    Meh, we might be able to pry Porzingis away from NY if we take on Carmelo’s contract. We’re good to go then.

  • The Chronic was a game changer in a way that Blueprint (Jay’s masterwork, no doubt) could never be. Took West Coast rap to an entirely different level and established the sound of hip hop from that region. It was groundbreaking. And introducing the world to Snoop is no minor thing either. On the strength of lyrics alone, advantage Jay. But, in my opinion, he doesn’t have an album that, in total, tops The Chronic.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/lFwkKGQPu7nP2/giphy.gif

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  • WFNY_DP

    See, I think you’re giving Eazy-E too much credit. Wasn’t he the one that literally rapped “Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say” on the track “8 Ball” from Straight Outta Compton?

    For me, it was always Cube and Dre, for the writing and beats, respectively. I always thought it was a poorly kept secret that Dre never wrote his own rhymes (Cube, Snoop, Eminem, etc.). But his production ability isn’t up for discussion.