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Warren Sapp calls Myles Garrett “a lazy kid”

The 2017 NFL Draft is just over 72 hours from beginning. With the Cleveland Browns holding the No. 1 pick, plenty of rumors have swirled, linking them to North Carolina quarterback Mitchell Trubisky with the first-overall pick. To this point, the consensus top selection has been Texas A&M defensive end Myles Garrett, who is expected to hear his name called first on Thursday night.

While there are plenty of doubters who believe the defensive end will not be successful in the NFL, former defensive lineman and Hall of Famer Warren Sapp appears to have taken the top spot from ESPN personality Booger McFarland. Existing in a world where ultra-loud certainty is condoned, Sapp spoke out about Garrett on Sunday, stating he is not only overrated, but he’s also “lazy.” Here’s what he had to say, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter:

“I see a lazy kid that makes four plays a game. This is the No. 1 guy? No, no, no. This ain’t even close. … I don’t see it from this kid. I see the splash plays; everybody gets those. Where’s the game he took over? Where? Any defensive lineman who’s the No. 1 pick, you turn up and you say, ‘There it is!’ This kid, no, I don’t. I’m a pretty plain and frank guy, and I watch the tape and he disappears. I watch the tape, and he absolutely disappears.”

While Garrett struggled at times throughout 2016, it was mainly due to injuries through which he continuously played throughout the season. Add in the fact that he was double or even triple-teamed at times while teams ran the ball away from him and did everything they could to not allow him into the backfield, and that’s mainly the reason why Garrett didn’t put up the numbers that he could have. One would think Sapp would know that a defensive lineman can affect the game in many ways that aren’t on the stat sheet, right?

Whether Sapp likes it or not, Garrett will likely be the No. 1 pick by the Browns Thursday night. The last time Cleveland took a defensive end with the first-overall pick was in 2000, when they selected Penn State’s Courtney Brown. With just five seasons in the NFL before he decided to call it quits, five of which were with the Browns, Brown never really lived up to expectations. In  47 games in the orange and brown from 2000-04, the defensive end totaled 194 tackles, 19 sacks, eight forced fumbles, and one touchdown. Although he spent just five years in Cleveland, Sapp doesn’t even think that Garrett will do as well as Brown did.

“I don’t think this kid is as good as Courtney Brown either.”

Prior to March’s NFL Combine, many across the league already believed that Garrett was the best player in the draft. Following his dominant performance in Indianapolis, those thoughts all but became a certainty. Whether it was the interviews or how the numbers he put up in a handful of different areas, Garrett turned plenty of heads. Then again, Sapp seems to think that measurables are overrated as well, much like his opinion on Garrett.

“It’s all about measurable. Once you hit the measurable, it’s tough to get them old scout people off the numbers, and that’s what [Garrett] has. He’s big, and he’s fast. Now some defensive line coach is thinking, ‘I can turn him into something.’ How? I’m trying to figure this out. Really? Are we lowering the bar?”

Considered the consensus top pick by almost everyone around the league, Garrett can use Sapp’s comments as a reason to have a chip on his shoulder in order to prove him wrong, if he needs that sort of thing for motivation.

If for some reason the Browns don’t call Garrett’s name first on Thursday night, the defensive end already admitted that he will give Cleveland nightmares for years to come.

  • humboldt

    Lazy?

    He’ll fit right in with our team concept
    https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/226c7ae6-26fa-436c-abb6-f92f8f307a1e

  • Saggy

    Sapp and I agree.

    Jonathan Allen will be the best player from this draft, as long as he stays healthy.

    But here’s hoping Myles can be the transcendent guy that all the measurables say he will be.

  • NankirPhelge

    This sounds like more than some talking head trying to get clicks. I’d give his remarks a serious look.

  • tigersbrowns2

    okay , here it is … feast your eyes on this & marvel at how i nail every single pick :

    1 – Garrett
    12 – Trubisky
    32 – Peppers
    52 – Samuel

  • JNeids

    TB2’s mock draft 5.13Cii

  • Chris

    He’s making a mockery of the mock draft process.

  • Sam Gold

    Yeah, Sapp is pretty good at this stuff…

    Thank you for the motivation the last 4 yrs. E really appreciated it. #whoisinthelineupnow pic.twitter.com/A0nDNMABZi— Eric Weddle (@weddlesbeard) February 3, 2015

  • nj0

    Making four plays a game is pretty good for an edge rusher.

  • RGB

    Spectacular for a Browns player.

  • Harv

    Sapp’s right: the consistently noticeable ones make it. And if Warren doesn’t get lots of consistent attention for his statements well, the league is churning out an endless stream of loudmouth jocks who are dying to find another source of steady paychecks once their playing careers are done.

  • Garry_Owen

    Man, I’ll watch hours of tape of Warren Sapp playing football and high-fiving Brett Favre, but it is really difficult – nay, impossible – for me to care one whit about anything he says.

  • NankirPhelge

    Okay, but let us not forget that most of us smirked when Jim Brown called Trent Richardson “ordinary” shortly before the Browns traded up to get him.

  • Garry_Owen

    Sure, but also let us not forget that Jim Brown had nothing to gain by offering his opinion, whereas Sapp is trying to build a career as an analyst by drawing attention to his “analysis.”

  • RGB

    The last player that impressed Jim Brown was Jim Brown.

  • NankirPhelge

    Okay. We’ll see.

    It’s just that when something seems to good to be true . . .

    (Aaahh, there’s nothing like a little “The clock is ticking” having-second-thoughts cold-feet “Do I really want to do this?” pre-draft panic.)

  • tsm

    As it should be for the GOAT.

  • NankirPhelge

    Does that automatically mean that Sapp is wrong?

  • Garry_Owen

    Not automatically; but nor does it mean he should be trusted, either automatically or deliberately. But back to my main point, it definitely depletes MY reserves of “give a crap what he says.”

  • NankirPhelge

    But don’t you think he’s watched much more tape of Garrett than any of us have? And he does have more experience playing defensive line in the NFL.

    What I’m getting at is this seems to me a reflexive discounting of his opinion by you and others just because he is a big-personality talking-head, without considering any of the elements that may have gone into his opinion. I’d say the basis of his opinion is just as good, and in many cases superior, to the bases of opinion of anybody else out there.

    I just see this as piling on the big man for no good reason. And I don’t even like the guy.

  • Garry_Owen

    When one voice loudly contradicts every other voice in a manner intended to draw attention to it, like the class clown at the high school pep rally, dismissal is likely warranted, or at least understandable. As for “piling on,” my impression is my own, and independently derived – and I certainly know the contrarian’s role!

  • Garry_Owen

    Also, I have no reason at all to think that he’s watched more film than anyone else. Indeed, the fact that his observations vary so wildly from the “expert” norm tends to indicate to me that the converse is more likely true.

  • mgbode

    Skip Bayless has jumped on Warren Sapp’s side, so I’m feeling quite comfortable as opposition.

  • NankirPhelge

    Does Sapp have a reputation for being a know-nothing attention-grabbing conventional-wisdom-trolling jerk? Has he missed wildly on other statements? If so, is he any worse than the more mild-mannered, softer-spoken experts (e.g., Kiper) who tout players who become complete busts?

  • mgbode

    Does Sapp have a reputation for being a know-nothing attention-grabbing conventional-wisdom-trolling jerk?

    That sentence might as well describe Sapp’s playing career (I mean, he played great but his mouth fit that description so, so well).

    His post-playing days has all been about saying dumb things to keep his name afloat and accusing players of being a snitch (Jeremy Shockey for Bountygate) or calling them retards (Brandon Marshall) or lazy (Myles Garrett has company with Cam Newton — not bad company). You know, that and the whole Superbowl sex film with prostitutes escapade.

  • NankirPhelge

    Well okay. But this instant dismissal of his opinion just strikes me as a bit close-minded based on who said it rather than what he said. We should be open to having our assumptions challenged, don’t you think?

  • mgbode

    No problem and if he presented reasons and examples, while breaking down why he felt the way he does — no problem.

    Stephen White does so:
    http://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/3/14745070/myles-garrett-scouting-report-2017-nfl-draft-breakdown-film-review

    I disagree with his conclusion, but I see his points along the way. With White, I wonder how he can point out all the same positives and arrive at a different conclusion. With Sapp, he’s just flapping gums because he likes the way his vocal chords vibrate the air.

  • NankirPhelge

    But you’re ascribing a motive to Sapp. Didn’t we agree last week that we should base our opinions and judge those of others on the facts of the matter rather than impugning the motives of someone with whom we disagree?

  • mgbode

    OK, let me further break down his quote:

    “I see a lazy kid that makes four plays a game. This is the No. 1 guy? No, no, no. This ain’t even close. … I don’t see it from this kid.”

    As noted, four big plays in a game where the opposition is running away from you and double-teaming you is actually pretty dang good. Also, I disagree he “only” makes four plays a game.

    “I see the splash plays; everybody gets those.”

    Garrett’s three-year production is among the best out there. Exceeded former No. 1 overall pick JaDaveon Clowney, JJ Watt, etc.

    “Where’s the game he took over? Where?”

    Plenty but let’s take two examples. UCLA game where he destroyed the Bruin OL. Also, the Tenn game where he was literally hobbling off the field and still made multiple impact plays that helped define the game including in OT.

    “Any defensive lineman who’s the No. 1 pick, you turn up and you say, ‘There it is!’ This kid, no, I don’t. I’m a pretty plain and frank guy, and I watch the tape and he disappears. I watch the tape, and he absolutely disappears.”

    Again, see the Stephen White detailed breakdown above. You can say many things about Myles Garrett, but disappearing is not one of them. His biggest flaw – as White properly denotes- is that if he isn’t going to make a play, then he hits the brakes to wait for the next play rather than chasing down. MG was questioned at the combine about this and he noted that college can have 90+ plays for a defense per game and he doesn’t rotate out. He needed to make sure he stayed fresh throughout the game (he also dropped a line about Bama in NC game but I don’t remember the exact quote).

  • NankirPhelge

    Well okay. But as we both know, there have been a decent number of can’t-miss No. 1s who missed badly. So we’ll just have to wait and see who was right on this one. But I don’t dismiss Sapp’s opinion any more than I would dismiss yours, since both of you have put way more work into forming it than I have. I just think his opinion is worthy of consideration.

  • Warburton MacKinnon

    Jabrill Peppers just got dinged for diluting a sample at the combine.

  • Warburton MacKinnon

    still Warren was more of a big man in the middle than an edge rusher…so is he looking for something that Garret has never been nor could be? Also injuries really screwed Courtney Brown,which in retrospect made him a bad pick,not his play,we have(and have had) many players on our Dline with worse numbers and more years in the league than Brown had. I would also suggest that blocking schemes now seem to take into account a huge man over center better than when Sapp played.

  • The Other Tim

    Who is giving this girlfriend beater a voice though?

  • mgbode

    I’m not saying Garrett cannot be a bust (he could get injuries and be plagued by them). I am saying that Sapp needs to add more reasoning if he wants people to buy-in especially given his history of hyperbolic statements.

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  • jpftribe

    The reverse WWSBD theory. Guaranteed lock.

  • jpftribe

    Exactly, high floor unlimited ceiling comments. He’s wrong and he gets a poke in the ribs during a pregame. Garrett struggles it becomes a year long mantra he can stand behind.

    The only one that remembers the Weddle comment was Weddle.

  • NankirPhelge

    Then why give credence to his opinion by running a story about it? If it’s so meaningless, why not just ignore it?

  • mgbode

    I didn’t write the story. I wouldn’t have written the story. I also would never stop someone from writing something that they felt was pertinent.

    As for why I didin’t ignore in the comments, well, I’m a weak man who cannot help himself 🙂

  • NankirPhelge

    I know. I’ve enjoyed semi-busting your chops over this and taking advantage of your love of argument.

  • BenRM

    Remember when Warren Sapp was charged with domestic battery and that other time he was arrested for solicitation?

    http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/412/134/a47.jpg

  • Saggy

    So you’re saying he went all “Fred Hickman” over Myles Garrett. Gotcha.

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