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NFL Draft: Kiper, McShay have Browns taking Trubisky at No. 1

In their final submission prior to Thursday night’s NFL Draft, both Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay offer “curveballs” for the first selection in their respective mock drafts. After months of predicting the Cleveland Browns would select edge rusher Myles Garrett with the No. 1 pick, both ESPN draftniks switch gears and plug in Mentor native Mitchell Trubisky.

From Kiper:

1. Cleveland Browns

Mitchell Trubisky, QB, North Carolina

How’s this for a curveball to begin the night? The thinking is the Browns get antsy about Trubisky being available at No. 12 and don’t find any takers to trade up. Could Cleveland ownership get involved and insist on a QB here? Remember, the Browns passed on Carson Wentz last year and really need a franchise-changer at the position. Myles Garrett is my No. 1-ranked prospect.

And from McShay:

1. Cleveland Browns

Mitchell Trubisky, QB, North Carolina

Everything I hear suggests the Browns like Trubisky the best among the QBs. It’s unlikely he drops to No. 12, where Cleveland picks again. So the questions become: Take Myles Garrett here and try to trade back up for Trubisky? Or take the QB and address pass-rusher at No. 12? Fascinating decision.

Much like they did in the 2016 NFL Draft, the Browns front office has everyone guessing.To be clear, here, neither Kiper nor McShay feel the Browns should take Trubisky at No. 1—they’re just reading the tea leaves. For what it’s worth, McShay went on live following the publication of his mock saying it was literally an 11th hour move.

“At 11 o’clock last night, I was sitting there and I had a very different order,” said McShay. “I had Myles Garrett going at No. 1 and then I got a phone call from a friend in the league who asked ‘Are you hearing what I’m hearing? Are they going to mess it up?’ I made another call, and another call, and then at 11:30 I’m sitting there with a whole new order. I think it’s a mistake if they go with Trubisky at No. 1. They could probably get him at [No.] 12 or move back up a few spots. But if they, as an organization, decide that he’s the guy to finally end the trouble, then go ahead—take him. Persoanlly I think you take Garrett who is a potential difference maker and then find where that pressure point is to move up in order to go find [Trubisky].”

Kiper has the Browns landing Ohio State’s Marshon Lattimore at No. 12 while McShay has them making up for passing on Garrett by taking Tennessee’s Derek Barnett.

  • mgbode

    Barnett, to me, would be a double-dip of bad for passing up Myles Garrett. He’s a hustle guy who doesn’t have the elite characteristics. He’d be a constant reminder of what we don’t have.

    Anyway, I’m quite certain Myles Garrett will be a Brown 7 hours from now. If not, then I unleash the panda.

  • NankirPhelge

    This will be either Kiper’s finest hour or the Mother of All Silliness that by rights should end his career. And since ESPN is wielding the axe, he might be gone by 8:15 p.m.

  • crobarred

    I hope you are right Bode. I really want Garrett but if this becomes Gilbert/manziel the sequel I don’t know how much more I can take.

  • chrisdottcomm

    Bode to Sashi .0005 seconds after that card would be turned in:

    http://www.etonline.com/tv/2015/05/24153676/GIF_gordon_ramsay_idiot_sandwich.gif

  • mgbode

    I am confident I am correct here. I’m so confident that I’m working on alternate spins to be able to use my panda arc anyway.

  • jpftribe

    Even MKC is not buying this nonsense.

  • jpftribe

    My first, last and only 2017 draft prediction. Kiper will still be employed on Monday. He’s a “personality”.

  • Toddyus

    This is just the fallacy that the people running the Browns draft now are the same people responsible for the silliness of the last 2 decades. As such they’re going to do the same stupid things those other people have done. As if Berea turns your brain to mush. Yes, it’s the same franchise, but that’s where the similarity ends.

    (Unless they’re right, in which case I give up…)

  • CBiscuit

    So, I stopped following the “draft experts” long ago…so I’m confused. They no longer say who the Browns SHOULD take, but instead who they think the Browns WILL take? So they’re predictive rather than prescriptive?

  • Harv

    If they do it (which they absolutely won’t, unless they do), we can assume that it was the owner, because it’s idiotic. And that DePodesta is gone, because he’s said he received a promise of patience from the owner which will have been broken. And that Sashi is gone, because he’s got no DePo Genius Fig Leaf to hide behind and he’s the fall guy when the team is still a roster disaster, but now one that decided to waste the top pick . And that I’m gone, because, well, enough is enough is enough. No one can force me to watch idiocy, ot think about it, or comment about it.

  • mgbode

    Kiper & McShaw have always done their drafts according to what they hear from their sources. Found it odd that ESPN has BOTH of them do it this way.

    Plenty of others do their own thoughts (like Joe Gilbert – my fave)

  • tigersbrowns2

    nobody can force you , except your heart , my brother … don’t fret …

  • CBiscuit

    With the caveat of my limited knowledge on the subject….I think you and Joe have done a fantastic job. If we can get some hair and make up people to work you up into a nice lush pompadour, and if you can clack on some chewing gum and rap about players on camera…you’re just as qualified as old Kiper. Let’s make it happen!

  • Harv

    also, I cannot believe they’d become so brainlocked. On the other hand, I was stunned when the Cavs traded Ron Harper for Ferry rights, and when Gordon Gund/Paxson released Boozer out of the team option in exchange for his word. A cap guy and 20-something are the latest to be thrown the keys to the city’s car. There is idiocy in sports, and it hurts to think it’s right here in burning river city.

    [24 24 hours to go, I wanna be sedated]

  • jpftribe

    Pfft. A little Grecian Formula and a Macbook and they are good to go.

  • tigersbrowns2

    Mel does have good hair , but that’s about it …

  • tigersbrowns2

    LMFAO !!!!

  • Garry_Owen

    And she’s the chief broker of nonsense!

  • tigersbrowns2

    hmmm … i am going to say the Browns are smoke-screening very well … they aren’t going to tip their hand , or at least they shouldn’t be … i am guessing that Trubisky is NOT even the QB they want or draft.

  • woofersus

    I’m somewhat comforted by the fact that they both seem to say they heard it from people around the league. If the Browns are fishing by trying to run smoke screens about their value of Trubisky, it stands to reason that’s the scuttlebutt that would be floating around. The difference between the Browns and other teams is that Kiper and McShay have no reason to believe they aren’t about to do something incredibly stupid.

    Is it possible that they have him graded that high? I guess anything is possible. It just seems unlikely, and if the hallmark of the analytics era is supposed to be discipline and process, how could they be one of those front offices that locks onto a position of need and ignores all the fairly tremendous body of evidence suggesting you shouldn’t do that? They would really have to have him graded in the top 5 of all players on their board to even consider taking him at #1. Otherwise they may as well have Kevin Costner running the draft room.

    If a QB they like falls to 33 I’d be ok with considering that. I’d be much happier if they just grab a project in the 3rd round or later. In this particular draft I might be just fine if they just ignore that position altogether and let it ride with Kessler this season, and maybe take a flyer on Colin Kaepernick if/when the price becomes right.

    My dream scenario in this draft is they somehow end up with Garrett AND one of the top two safeties in the first round,
    (preferably Hooker for this defense, I think) then have one of the many talented CB’s in this draft fall to 33.

  • woofersus

    And not only are they just predicting what they think will happen, they and most other analysts out there are actively saying the browns SHOULDN’T do this.

  • Sam Gold

    Yeah, it’s totally hard to understand why ESPN is struggling and laying off quality personnel.

  • tsm

    Excellent comments. If they do this they are the opposite of analytical, they are operating on emotion and hope. When this all began a few months ago, the consensus of all the scouts was that NONE of the qb’s were worthy of the 1st round, much less #1 overall. What, factually, has changed? Nothing. I find it hard to believe that our HBT would go against every ounce of sense they possess and pick Mitch first. They need to have the courage of their convictions and let the draft come to them. They will have one of the top qb’s available at #12 and might even be able to pick another great defensive player at 12 and then trade back into the late first round and get a qb.

  • RGB

    This would be a fail of biblical proportions.
    I can only hope the nerds are totally okie-doking the Four Letter “experts”.

  • Greg Popelka

    Those Browns are just so darned smart.

  • humboldt

    Deep breaths, and watch this a few dozen times
    https://media.giphy.com/media/xT8qBd0tFdFV7l0gr6/giphy.gif

  • humboldt
  • Saggy

    whatevs.

    Baiters gonna Bait.

  • scripty
  • Saggy

    Well played.

  • Saggy

    The two examples you give are actually rational. Ferry was a darn good player and they had a handshake deal with Boozer. The Trubisky thing? PUHLEEEEEZE. Under no circumstance – even if Cleveland makes a trade – is Trubisky the top pick.

    Breathe deep my man.

  • Saggy

    exactly. Waaaaay too much info being leaked on him.

  • tigersbrowns2

    hi WOOF … good post. enjoy the draft.

  • NankirPhelge

    I can never get too much GPO DAW UND!

  • Harv

    um, rational? Do you remember what the Cavs gave up for the rights to grossly overpay Ferry, in addition to a young guy heading for stardom before he ruined his knee? That would be the next year’s #1, the following year’s #2, and the subsequent year’s #1. And sorry, there was simply zero rational to void the Boozer contract with a handshake. They would have had him under their control and then a right to match.

    Are you trying to upset me, Saggy? DON’T TALK TO ME UNTIL AFTER THEY DRAFT MYLES. [oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm]

  • tigersbrowns2

    Adam Shefter just reported the Browns WILL BE TAKING GARRETT … enough nonsense.

  • Saggy

    Just trying to calm you down. there’s NO way it’s not Myles. Just watch the GIF below and relax….

  • mgbode

    hey, surprise, everyone is now saying the Browns will take…

    drumroll please…….

    …..

    …..

    Myles Garrett —– who woulda thunk it, huh

  • mgbode

    I’m sure Joe would do great.

  • JM85

    ESPN fires everyone but those two goofs still are there. And if picking Trubisky leads to a sequel column of the Browns blowing it, I’m all for it.

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