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Francisco Lindor turned down $100 million? The WFNY Podcast

The Cleveland Indians weekend news cycle took a dramatic turn on Thursday when Sports Illustrated’s Tom Verducci reported that Tribe superstar Francisco Lindor had turned down a contract extension that was in the ballpark of $100 million. Let that sink in for a second.

There are so many rarities in that statement, that the offer is almost hyperbole. The Indians don’t generally offer players $100 million, let alone someone who played in their first Major League baseball game in June of 2015. Players with less than two years of service rarely get offered any sort of extension, let alone a triple digit deal. It’s no mystery that the Indians have valued Lindor highly from the second they drafted him, but now the cat is out of the bag regarding what Lindor’s intensions are.

What’s clear is that Brody Chernoff absolutely broke this story four weeks ago, when Tom Hamilton asked him if “Dad had any phone calls lately?”

Brody’s reply?

“He’s trying to, um, get Lindor to play for seven more years.”

For the record, my final numbers were seven years and $85 million, and I thought that was a stretch. Of course, with a variety of pre-arbitration players turning down contracts, and with massive deals on the docket for this offseason for Baltimore Orioles third baseman Manny Machado, and Nationals outfielder Bryce Harper, it’s quite possible Lindor is simply letting those numbers dictate his numbers.

That smells like trouble.

Today, WFNY’s Mike Hattery joined me for a detailed look at the Lindor contract whiff, and a whole lot more.

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Here’s the lineup:

  • Ohio City Burrito is fantastic
  • Great Lakes Brewery’s Hop Madness is insanely good, and will Conway’s Irish Ale eventually be a forever beer?
  • So, the Indians offered Lindor a historic deal
  • So, Lindor said no, but the Indians will sign Lindor. It’s done.
  • Lindor, generational money, New Balance, and betting on Frankie
  • 12-year, $200 million deal? Burke’s perennial podcast shoutout
  • Face of the Franchise
  • Does it actually make sense to give Lindor most of that Trout deal?
  • The offensive core of the Indians are Lindor and Ramirez
  • Gravy is so good…right Michael Brantley?
  • Chisenhall, Jackson, Guyer and Almonte provide so much value
  • Can the outfield keep Greg Allen and Bradley Zimmer in the minors until September?
  • Kipnis in the six-hole
  • Jose Ramirez could make $100 million less than Francisco Lindor over the life of his contract, but put up nearly the same numbers, or better?
  • Minor League chatter including Bobby Bradley, Bradley Zimmer, Greg Allen, Tristan McKenzie, and Thomas Pannone.

  • Saggy

    7/$126 would be fair. Or maybe 6/$114? Kid is the best player in the same league that Mike Trout plays in.

  • The kid will get $200 mil offers is he keeps up his current efforts. I’m not going to hate on him for betting on himself while still under four years of team control. And if he’s part of a World Series winner in that time, I won’t care where he decides to go afterwards anyway.

  • Steve

    Very different scenarios between Trout and Lindor because of service time.

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  • Chris

    Buy those tickets folks. We can only expect ownership to shell out money on a winner if we are willing to do so ourselves.

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  • Saggy

    Value should be all that matters. Lindor can take a few more “cheaper” paychecks and bolt, or the Tribe can pony up. Simple as that (obv not that simple).

    Plus, he should definitely be bringing up the fact that if the Tribe had brought him up earlier (thus starting his clock earlier) they would have made the playoffs an extra year. So they effectively cost themselves all the pennant race $$ and playoff $$, which would have more than paid for his service time.

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  • Harv

    Great point about his endorsement deals making it much easier for him to bide his time and get market value when his value is goosed up further (like, as soon as he hits 25 dingers, a day bearing down on us like a freight train).

    Lindor should get every penny and be happy. And the team can go get another investor or trade him when it’s time. This is the good price of drafting and developing well; if only we had such worries about Michael Aubrey and Andy Marte a decade ago.

  • Steve

    Maybe it should be, but its not. We still have two years of pre-arb with Lindor, when the Angels gave Trout his deal, they had zero.

    And as good as Lindor has been, he’s been worth about six wins a season, he likely would not have made up that five game difference to make the playoffs, six to get a home game, but only one guaranteed, if we had him the other 60 or so games in 2015.