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Terrelle Pryor and the Cleveland Browns both lost in free agency

Terrelle Pryor Edited

We’ve already spent a lot of time talking about Terrelle Pryor and the Browns. I promise that we will put the Terrelle Pryor thing to rest soon, but it’s still very fresh at this moment.

The Cleveland Browns had an offer for Pryor. Free agency opened, that offer disappeared and the end result is the Browns lost Pryor, Pryor didn’t make much money, and I think everyone lost in the end.

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  • Have the Browns’ habits regarding their own free agents started to become a trend in just two years with Mitchell Schwartz and now Terrelle Pryor?
  • Should the Browns have handled their business differently?
  • Should Terrelle Pryor fire his agent?
  • Did Terrelle Pryor really want to be in Cleveland or not?

We talk about that from all angles.

  • paulbip

    Pryor was not a team player.

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    Didn’t listen to the podcast, but agree 100% with the premise. He’s 27. He should have collected his payday and we have the funds to do so, plus put in a lot of upfront guaranteed money. The opportunity cost of having to “teach the system” to another receiver(s) as opposed to keeping one who thrived despite the QB situation is also probably a quantifiable loss of money.

    This should never of happened and the Browns FO deserves some criticism.

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    Based on what?

  • Justin Crockett

    This podcast is alarmingly false…the Browns never pulled or modified their offer from the initial one presented to Pryor. HE never came back to renegotiate, he obviously just wanted to leave.

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  • I agree !

  • The premise is that however it happened that it’s bad business on all sides. I speculated on a bunch of things, but the facts are that the Browns lose a player they needed and Terrelle Pryor didn’t get much guaranteed money for an NFL contract.

  • mgbode

    Actually, there were reports the offer was reduced. I know what MKC reported but even she has redacted that contention now.

  • mgbode

    See above

  • mgbode

    You’re good here. Some incorrect sources – there were earlier reports the offer was not the same which only makes sense as we discussed on Friday.

  • scripty

    Here’s the thing – we’d never know what would have signed Pryor. I think every contract would of been “a little short” and used out in the market. Kind of the “give a moose a muffin” bit.

    You overpay for one player, you end up overpaying for every player of consequence. Let’s see how this plays out before rendering a verdict.

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  • BenRM

    So they didn’t pull the offer, like Schwartz?

  • mgbode

    They did.

    The original offer was good until either FA opened or until they signed Britt (reports differ on this one).

    Pryor went to DC, received their offer and took 48 hours to try to drum up a better one from the Browns (and other teams). He decided he’d rather take the one year deal from them rather than whatever the offer was at the time (undisclosed but said to be multi-year with more guaranteed money).

  • Kenny_Reigns

    I totally agree with this.

  • Kenny_Reigns

    Pryor was never getting more than $8 mil/ year from anyone. Overpaying for him now wouldn’t have helped anyone in the long run. Just move on.

  • CBI
  • CBiscuit

    Now, there are attempts by “sources” (Rosenhaus and Rosenhaus associates) trying to save face…saying that after they got the Wash offer, they tried to go back to the Browns. But you know what, even if the Browns’ original offer was no longer on the table, that’s fine. I don’t get the blow back?

    In what crazy world can a guy like Schwartz or Pryor reject a very good offer, shop around, and then come back and expect to still have that offer on the table? I feel that players–if they genuinely are surprised–have a fundamental misunderstanding about how negotiations work (and are being screwed by their agents). There is a take this now price that was contemplated by the Browns, and there is no entitlement to that indefinitely. If you reject and shop around, you do so at your own peril. Teams have to maintain some credibility, and I respect the Browns for doing so (if they actually did get a Pryor crawling back). Also, teams need to move on (and did so with Britt), so sorry, TP…your slot was filled. You lose (and unfortunately we all lose because of you and your misguided and misguiding agents).

  • mgbode

    I don’t think many/any are killing the Browns for it. We can still be sad that they couldn’t figure out a way for Pryor to save face a little and come back on a cheap deal.

  • CBiscuit

    Yeah, we can be sad. My point is that players aren’t entitled to overplay their hand after being inflated by their idiot agents, shop around and expect a prior offer to be on the table. Doesn’t work that way. That is not an entitlement in any negotiations no matter how desperate a team like the Browns may be. And yes, I’m glad the Browns aren’t getting killed on this, as they shouldn’t. This is on TP for not being smart and on his agents. It’s sad bc I think he really did want to be here. Maybe next year…

  • mgbode

    Agree, people are being smarter about this FA period on the Browns, which is good.

    And, yeah, but if he wanted to be here then it is his own fault he didn’t realize that his agent worked for him and not the other way around.

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    Like it or not this makes a lot of sense for him as a player. He just had a great debut season as a WR for a team essentially without a QB. The prospect of playing with a good one like KC, even if it is just for one season, could be what sets him up for the rest of his life.

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