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May 12, 2014Cavs targeting Bulls’ Adrian Griffin to replace Mike Brown?
May 12, 2014The Cleveland Cavaliers sent out a release Monday afternoon announcing that David Griffin will have the interim removed from his title and will be the General Manager.
They also have released head coach Mike Brown.
âThis is a very tough business. It pains all of us here that we needed to make the difficult decision of releasing Mike Brown. Mike worked hard over this last season to move our team in the right direction. Although, there was some progress from our finish over the few prior seasons, we believe we need to head in a different direction. We wish Mike and his family nothing but the best,â said Gilbert.
âOur ownership support provides the highest level of resources, flexibility and commitment to aggressively do whatever we believe needs to be done in order to win. There is no harder working or better human being in our league than Mike,â Griffin added. “This was not an easy decision. We thank Mike for his efforts and wish him, his wife Carolyn, and their family only the best.â
The Cavaliers will now begin conducting a coaching search.
[Related: Cavaliers close to naming Griffin GM]
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I have to reiterate, they did bring in an offensive specialist. The issue was the the D needed so much work (and still does).
And yes, you’re going to have serious issues bringing in a top-notch candidate. And you’re going to have even more serious issues getting Irving to buy in, knowing that he’s the one going to be guaranteed the long-term deal, while the coach will be the one taking the lion’s share of the blame for any failures.
Mark Price?
he did say he was interested around this time last year.
you can reiterate, but the fact is that Mike Brown was the one drawing up plays during games. why have an offensive specialist if you don’t use him when it matters?
Or Bingo Smith. Or Jimmy Jackson because he played for the Buckeyes.
Johnny Football doesn’t like this at all. Johnny Football doesn’t like losing the spotlight. Johnny Football is going to climb on top of the chandelier at Playhouse Square tonight. Johnny Football ain’t takin’ this.
hah. Mass grave, baby, a war crimes scene.
With all the guaranteed money he’s getting from the Cavs(and Lakers too?), I would say that we won’t be hearing from him for a while.
only the ones you plan on dribbling out the shot clock to the last 3 seconds.
he still does that right?
That was the Mike Brown offense it’s why you saw Irving doing the same thing. Besides how many championships does LBJ have now?
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John Havlicek is the obvious answer. He is in the HOF and won championships in the NBA and for the Buckeyes.
I mean, sure he hasn’t been in basketball since ’78, but the dude knew Dave Thomas and still owns a bunch of Wendy’s restaurants. Ohio Proud, man.
Except that we don’t know what was going on the whiteboard. The chances that he was drawing something brand new up when he went to the board are slim. It can be a reminder of the play they practiced, a graphic demonstration of what to look for the other team to do, or any number of things.
The offense is installed behind closed doors in practice, not on the whiteboard at the last second like this is a playground.
I’m probably thinking about someone else, but didn’t Jimmy Jackson play for CSU?
Um no he played for the Buckeyes.
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Haslam’s already on top of it tossing out Slim Jims!
I would question why John Kuester was on the whiteboard that one season under Mike Brown if that’s true. There’d be no reason for it.
Gentlemen of WFNY, join me…
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hah. Johnny Football isn’t bothered, understands Dan Gilbert is a competitor and would expect nothing less. Johnny Football, though, may find himself at a certain casino tonight with a wallet full of greenbacks and eyes full of trouble.
HONDOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bill Laimbeer.
At one point doesn’t he need to change his name to Jonathan Football if he wants people to take him seriously?
Brown was frequently off the whiteboard when he first coached the Cavs. I remember many complaints that he would have to pass off responsibility during timeouts.
This seems like an Indians-attendance thing. No matter what happens, the goalposts are ever-moving.
until I know who our next HC is, I cannot celebrate
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True he cleaned up for being fired three times once after not even a month as HC and the other after one year. Great resume!
Really? I can’t speak for other folks, but I was ecstatic to see Kuester on the whiteboard back then. Had wanted Mike Brown to pass off to an offensive mind for a couple years before it happened.
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ummm, no.
yep. and we both called for it at the beginning of the season, then were left mouths agape as Coach Brown was the guy directing offensive play during games. Thought he learned, but he didn’t.
again, even if plays are the same, the offensive assistants #1 job should be adjusting to the defense and drawing up those plays.
Mike Brown is not talking to his assistants during gameplay (nor should he be) and then T/O happens and he’s drawing up plays. Where is the input? My argument is that he should be handing it off as he doesn’t have the acumen for it.
Knowing your limitations is one of the most important qualities of a leader.
I’m with Mgbode, everyone may be happy about this latest transition, BUT if Dan and David hire a coach that can only manage 20 wins tops every year with our current lineup, then those happy fans will be begging Dan and David to hire Mike Brown or maybe even Byron Scott back.
does his year where he won the Pacific Division and made the 2nd round with a depleted Laker team not count anymore?
“the offensive assistants #1 job should be adjusting to the defense”
Disagree. They should be poring over the tape between games coming up with packages to install during practice. The head coach should take that gameplan and provide any necessary tweaks as he sees the game develop.
honestly, I believe that is putting too much on one man.
why is it in football, we have an OC/DC and then the HC on most teams just worries about game management during the actual game. Why would it be so bad in the NBA to use that same structure?
probably just me on my soap-box, but it doesn’t make sense to me. most people aren’t Popovich/Paul Brown, but, in the NBA, we try to make them all work on the same level.
And assistants were on the whiteboard both before and after Kuester. And the offense under Malone (who has now become credited as a defense guy thanks to his works in Oakland) didn’t slip at all after Kuester.
I hear ya.
But no, under any circumstances will I ever want Mike Brown back.
Good question. I wouldn’t mind seeing a OC/DC structure in the NBA. Perhaps NBA head coaches are power hungry?
$hamrok forgot about the strike seasoned 66 game season so he should be hired back!!!
I have no recollection of those other assistants.
fans will be begging Dan and David to hire Mike Brown
NEVER! Brown should have been fired a year earlier his first time here.
I wouldn’t say power hungry as much as just: it’s how it has always been done. So, coaches do not want to look weak?
It was a big deal because Brown used the term “offensive coordinator” (or something close enough) when Kuester came aboard.
And Kuester’s first offense finished 20th in the league, helped out by Pavlovic and Hughes leading the backcourt in starts. When Williams and West lead the backcourt in starts the next year, the offense finished 4th, and then Kuester became a genius.
Think positive. lol đ
Not even for a Scooby snack?
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They are following the Browns model I thought you’d be giddy?
As you say, I’d bet a big part of it is “how it’s always been done”. But the gameplay does make it more difficult to separate the two.
In football, you can pull the defense and offense aside, and work with them separately. In basketball, if you have an offensive assistant and defensive assistant, they’re wasting time when the team works on the other side of the ball.
“Not if you was the last imigrant grocer on earth, honey!”
Yeah, ok. You’re right. đ
Ya know you could have put a little more energy into that response, sheesh.
but, teams already do have the assistants, they just don’t give them authority during games.
So does this mean we can say bye bye to Kyrie Irving since there’s seems to be no coaching stability on this team, or will he end up signing a contract with similar terms to Alex Mac’s contract?