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NFL Rumor: Brian Hoyer suffers torn ACL

Cleveland Browns quarterback Brian Hoyer is believed to have suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in his right knee. This report comes from NFL insider Adam Caplan.

Hoyer left Thursday night’s game early in the first half after a first-down run led to the quarterback sliding awkwardly and sustaining a hit that led to his right knee being twisted. The Browns ultimately beat the Buffalo Bills 37-24, but—assuming the news is confirmed via an MRI—the storybook season of a Cleveland native leading the Browns will have an unfortunate ending.

[Related: Browns beat Bills despite losing Hoyer]

  • Natedawg86

    Tape it up, we need you

  • typo

    I dont want to hear that this is not typical Cleveland. Because this is a typical cleveland event. If the news turns out to be true, then I will wallow in my cleveland misery and everyone else can shut up.

  • typo

    I feel a little better.

  • Jeff

    If this is the case, the Browns might want to consider Josh Freeman if Hoyer goes on IR (a certainty if it is an ACL tear). I’m not much of a Freeman fan, but having another experienced NFL starter on the roster isn’t a bad thing – and Norv Turner is nowhere near as pathetic as an OC as the people Freeman has been under in Tampa.
    Guess we just have to cross our fingers and if it is bad, that Weeden has learned something from watching Hoyer. This season has so much promise with Hoyer behind the center.

  • MrCleaveland

    Ha haaa! Like the country song says, “Go ahead and feel bad if it makes you feel better.”

  • mgbode

    rub a little dirt on it.

  • mgbode

    we might have to beat Buffalo to the punch if we want Freeman. If Manuel misses any time, then they need him more (Tuel was terrible).

  • whosevelt

    Wow, this sucks. I was really high on Hoyer. Thought he could be something between a poor man’s Brady and a poor man’s Brees. It would suck for everyone if we have to draft a big time QB next year while Hoyer comes off rehab to be the backup in Tampa or something.

  • Ezzie Goldish

    Please no. Let’s not bring in a chemistry destroyer to a young team full of it.

  • BenRM

    I am expressing the saddest of sad faces.

  • BenRM

    From a lot of the stuff I have been reading, Schiano is far more to blame than Freeman.

  • Ezzie Goldish

    Why risk it? Is Freeman better than Weeden?

  • BenRM

    As someone who used to be a Weeden supporter/defender, I now find myself in the “anyone except Weeden” camp.

    He….looks….so….slow….that…I…need…ellipses…to….emphasize….the….fact…

  • Weeden looked like Weeden last night minus interceptions. Innacurate, blowing screens by throwing the ball 90 mph, holding the ball for 5+ seconds. He is who we thought he was even with Josh Gordon. I’d get behind giving Freeman a shot.

  • Ezzie Goldish

    LOL. I also am in the Weeden defender camp, saying he needs Gordon to judge. And again with Gordon in there he put up solid (not spectacular but solid) numbers. And I said on another one of these threads that it is definitely a problem when the fans have a better internal clock than you. GET RID OF THE D*** BALL!!

  • Ezzie Goldish

    I disagree on some of that. He wasn’t inaccurate after the first couple horrid throws, and the blown screen was not a fastball but a simple drop by Gordon. But totally agree on holding the ball too long.

  • stryker1121

    Really bummed about this if it comes to pass. Loved Hoyer’s decision-making, quick reads, and general passing of the “eye test.” It’s painful watching Weeden out there and even though Hoyer’s probably not the future at QB either, I KNOW that BW is not.

  • Ezzie Goldish

    Just to add to that a bit…

    Weeden no Gordon:
    137-253 54.2% 1,513 216ypg 6.0ypa 4TD/10INT 60.9 QB rating

    Weeden + Gordon:
    220-374 58.8% 2,585 235ypg 6.9ypa 12TD/10INT 79.5 QB rating

    It’s the difference between sucking and being average. (Note I’ve never felt Weeden is your long-term solution, just a sufficient one as you build a team until you get your QB.)

  • FearTheElf

    Brian Hoyer with no legs > Brandon Weeden

  • RGB

    Brandon Weeden = Better 2014 draft position.

  • Big Z

    That didn’t work. I still think he sucks 🙂

  • Ezzie Goldish

    Haha!

  • simond

    lets fast forward and hypothetically say that Hoyer is done for the year

    ride out Weeden til the end of the year, maybe win 6-7 games, maybe

    then go out and get a Teddy Bridgewater or whoever the top QB is in the draft

    does Weeden/Hoyer start next year at the starter with Bridgewater “learning” from them and easing his way onto the field?

  • Harv 21

    Nerd Guy can’t help himself: this is not a “rumor” that the ACL is torn. It can’t be, because the tweet acknowledges that the underlying truth won’t be established until they do an MRI which reveals a tear. The guy says “early word.” All this probably means is that the source reported that the team ortho examined him and elicited symptoms consistent with a tear.

    You want “rumor” in your headline? Here: “Rumor: Source Says Team Suspects Hoyer ACL Tear.” Sorry, it’s Friday, when the nerds come out to play.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Uh YES!

  • C-Bus Kevin

    There is no “riding out” this year. This is a first place team about a third of the way through. They need to make a move to make the playoffs.

  • C-Bus Kevin

    Two things…

    1. Feel really bad for Hoyer. I hope he can recover and return to a good career.
    2. Josh Freeman…make it happen.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Ezzie a third string backup (Hoyer) shows just how lacking Weeden is on the field. Weeden lacks the mental capacity to play the game just watch how slow not only he is but the plays. Despite size and a cannon for an arm he doesn’t have it upstairs. After the game he said what he did wrong he always does yet time and time again he does the same things during games.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    There are first place teams and then there is this first place team after a Thursday night game and before the rest of the division has played a game. The whole division has taken a step back it appears while this football team has taken some forward. By some I mean the defense, Gordon, Cameron and Benjamin. The QB spot has reset to default which is a negative and the RB situation is shaky at best especially since Obiwanna also got hurt.

  • C-Bus Kevin

    Better draft position? 1st Place…the team is in 1st place a third of a way through the season. 1st Place! Not 4th place…not even 3rd place. 1st!!!

    Sorry…your Cleveland sports fandom PTSD was kicking in. Did that help?

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Amen Ben compared to Hoyer he (Weeden) looks like he’s stuck in quick sand. Both physically and mentally.

  • Matthew Grant Anson

    hahahaha

  • Ezzie Goldish

    A third-string backup shows the ability to make quick decisions, but also throws some horrible picks – not in traffic, not bad throws, but horrible decisions. Yes, Weeden is overly hesitant and waits for the perfect opening, but he does it a lot less with Josh Gordon and was improving more and more last year as they played together. This year Weeks 1-2 he reverted to scared with no O-line and no Gordon. Give it time.

    I think everyone’s jumping as if Hoyer was the second coming of Tom Brady when he had two OK games, which is absurd.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    First the Indians go belly up and now Hoyer it is clear the sporting Gods hate Cleveland!

  • C-Bus Kevin

    If Hoyer’s out, it’s time to go get Josh Freeman…here’s why.

    1. The Browns just don’t have enough QB’s on the roster..they’re picking up someone.
    2. I have eyeballs…therefore, I know that Weeden is not going to get it done. Too slow getting rid of the ball.
    3. This team’s in first place a third of the way through the season. At this point, you’re a buyer, not a seller. It kills me to hear people talking about getting better draft position at this point. This team is GOOD. The defense is fantastic. Go for the playoffs now.
    4. Josh Freeman’s line last year: 4000+ yards, 27/17 TD/INT, 7.5 yards per pass. All before Schiano decided he hated him. If you don’t prefer this over Weeden…you stink at math.
    5. You probably don’t need to commit long-term to Freeman. This isn’t a trade…he was released. The Browns have the cap room to take him.

    Please do it and go for the brass ring, Browns. Nothing is guaranteed next year. With a defense this good, this team is just one decent QB from the playoffs, and Freeman is better than average.

  • woofersus

    “source said….”

    A sideline reporter relayed word from Chud that they were afraid Hoyer had a torn ligament during the game last night. It was broadcast on national television. They also said an MRI was pending. Everybody who watched the game knew this, and every news outlet that covers football said something about it this morning.

    It seriously grinds my gears when a reporter takes publically available news and tries to make it sound like they have a scoop with tricky wording. (or makes obvious speculation on their own and adds the word “source” to it) I know it’s a little tough to credit sources when you only have 140 characters to work with and once something is common knowledge you can reasonably consider it public domain, but don’t say you have “early word” from “a source” when that source was the TV 12 hours ago from an NFL Network sideline reporter.

    And this is the guy who said Josh Gordon was on the block according to “a source” and that Banner clearly wanted him out according to “a source” (he wrote it twice) 45 minutes after Adam Schefter tweeted that the Browns “have fielded offers” for Gordon, which may in fact be true even if they weren’t looking to trade him. (although that in itself smacks of speculation disguised as inside information on the heels of the Browns trading Richardson)

    You are a hack, Adam Caplan. I do not respect you.

  • RGB

    1st place in a terrible division.
    8-8 will win the division. Get rolled in the playoffs. Draft around 20th.
    I suppose, technically that is progress.
    Go Browns!

  • C-Bus Kevin

    I don’t care if they’re in first place because the rest of the division fell into a sink hole. The goal is to win the division, and five games in, they’re right there to do it.

  • C-Bus Kevin

    If your idea of success is going from 2-14 to overnight success…best of luck to you. It just doesn’t happen with a few very notable exceptions.

    The point of playing is to WIN. Do you think anyone else in the last 14 years has said to themselves, “yeah…I’m glad they won the division, but the Browns (and Bengals) just weren’t that good this year, so meh…”?

    I just can’t honestly believe you’d rather see your team get a better draft slot instead of making the playoffs and losing. I just don’t understand that.

  • Everyone is jumping because Hoyer is visually better than Weeden. I don’t think anyone thinks Hoyer is the long term answer but if he was able to give us watchable football for a year I’d say I’m inclined to take it. Watching Weeden in the pocket is like watching a ticking time bomb.

  • Ezzie Goldish

    He’s “visually” better because he moves around more and throws earlier. But that doesn’t mean he’s actually better (and look at his numbers in total to see that).

    People do think Hoyer is the long-term answer and/or they think we need more time to see that and that now we have to wait another year to find out, which is ridiculous. Though admittedly I shouldn’t listen to sports talk radio. 🙂

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Dude you need to relax lol.

  • mgbode

    Cinci & Balt play NE & Miami, so it is quite possible that we’ll still be in 1st place by ourselves on Monday. And, it is guaranteed that we’ll be in 1st place at least tied. Baby steps.

  • Captain Kidd

    done for the year. bummer

  • C-Bus Kevin

    Ha! I can’t…seriously, I think I may have a problem.

    I know you’ve seen a lot of success with all your Boston teams, but I’m just not used to winning…and I want more!

  • Ezzie Goldish

    Oooh, I should add his record in those two splits.

    0-7 without Gordon. 6-5 with Gordon.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    And the transition from baseball to football season is complete well at least in Cleveland!

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    LoL just pump the breaks a little there is still plenty of time left for more things to go wrong. But speaking of Boston the Bruins won in their season debut and of course the mighty Red Sox square off with those damn Rays. Pats take on the Bengals. Oh and this:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20131004/boston-red-sox-beards-rushin/?sct=hp_t1t_a2&eref=sihp