While We’re Waiting… Did the Browns actually win the Chip Kelly sweepstakes?
October 21, 2013
Scott Raab on the Browns, Brandon Weeden and Robert Redford’s movie career – WFNY Podcast – 2013-10-21
October 21, 2013Who caught your eye? Did someone stand out? Who blew it? That’s what were interested in this morning. Winners and losers.
Ugh. The Browns loss yesterday to the Packers had a familiar look to it. Which means we might struggle to find anything positive.
LOSER: Brandon Kyle Weeden. Yes, there was a point in the game where Weeden completed a few passes in a row and moved the Browns a little. Too little, too late however. Weeden looked awful completing only 40% of his passes. He missed several open targets and had the announcing crew bemoaning his lack of quick decision making. We even saw a sequel to the infamous ‘underhand flip’.
WINNER: Travis Benjamin. Benjamin was given a chance to return a kick-off, something fans and the media have been asking about for weeks. Benjamin fielded the kick in the back of the end zone and scampered 86 yards to set the Browns up in great field position. Benjamin didn’t get another chance.
LOSER: Tie between Josh Gordon/his shoes/gameday staff. Seriously? Did you catch the slip and fall montage? What’s the deal Gordon? Try some other spikes. Or give a crap. One of the two would help.
WINNER: Jordan Cameron. Seven more catches and another touchdown. Forty-five catches and six touchdowns on the year. That’ll do Jordan.
LOSER: Marqueis Gray/Norv Turner. I think I could be done with the wildcat experiment.
LOSER: Pass rush. Second game in a row that the Browns really didn’t get any pressure on the opposing quarterback. There was one sack, and Chris Owens split it with Paul Kruger on a cornerback blitz.
I could go on for a while, but it’s your turn. Who are your winners and losers?
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Such a great show. Although, I’ll watch anything with Aubrey Plaza in it.
I’ve been looking at mocks since Hoyer went down.
The majority have us taking Manziel…..
I want to see a trade where we give up Weeden for a $1 off coupon at Chipotle.
Oh good God I can’t get back to Boston for Wednesday fast enough!
Ugh…please no…please please please no.
Hopefully not but, can anyone say that Lombardi/Banner has made a bad move so far?
Although, we thought the same thing of Heckert.
I think Heckert did an admirable job on the defensive side of the ball and just whiffed on nearly every offensive pick. I was talking with my dad about this yesterday, that it’s startling how poorly they’ve selected on the offensive side especially at QB.
I know it’s beating a dead horse but going over a decade without finding anyone somewhat competent anywhere in the draft is a serious indictment of your scouting department. The inability to hire the right people from the top of the organization down has been an absolute death blow.
agree with all of this.
Re Heckert, I thought then that the 2012 draft (which started with something like 3 picks in the first 37 overall) would be the key to the Browns’ immediate future. None of them are impact players or foundation pieces by anyone’s definition. I knew then that my Heck love was mostly competence relativism, and I still believe Holmgren when he said he influenced each QB selected, but Heckert’s crucial draft now appears to be without question a major whiff.
I’ve heard this before and if true it makes me feel a little better about the future. Frankly I don’t know what is true and what isn’t when it comes to Lombardi but obviously he has a second chance here. We’ll see what happens.
Hmmmmmm not much although I would have gone after Josh Freeman myself. All it would have cost is $$$ no draft picks. I’m interested to see what he does tonight in his debut for Minnesota after being with the team for just over a week. I think he’s going to need some time but honestly I think he’ll be okay.
As far as Heckert goes I wasn’t at that party! 😉
if bleh describes this list, what describes yesterday in Green Bay?
Oh well of course the playoffs will be the true test and all that anyone remembers but that doesn’t diminish what KC has done to this point. The good news is most likely they’ll only have to go through one of those teams perhaps two at the most and if they do it’ll be at home. That’s a home field advantage to say the least.
As for Harbaugh he seems to me to be an ego driven coach an all be it talented ego driven head coach. I’m not sold on Colin K even with Vernon and Anquan. You see the 49ers have gone back to more GORE, GORE, GORE I think that’s smart.
I just don’t understand why every Browns QB that steps onto the field is worse than the last. You’d think in 20 years we could find at least one mediocre guy to run the offense.
That’s interesting, hadn’t thought about the O/D split. The only offensive players of note are Cameron, perhaps OL (and those are not spectacular, just average) and a WR whose only value is as a PR/KR.
Splitting them up in round order:
Offense:
RB Richardson
QB Weeden
RT Schwartz
WR Little
RB Hardesty
QB McCoy
RG Lavauo
PR Benjamin
TE Cameron
FB Marecic
G Miller
RG Pinkston
WR C.Mitchell
TE Smelley
Defense:
CB Haden
DT Taylor
LB Sheard
SS Ward
DT Hughes
LB J.M.Johnson
CB Skrine
DB Asante
LB Acho
DT Winn
DE Geathers
CB Wade
FS Hagg
Wow.
The Bermuda Triangle of QB play.
Don’t do it to yourself Ezzie! Amazing how when you list things how you understand why this team continues to be bad. You also have to keep in mind all of the moves that were made in order to draft some of those guys. You forgot Alex Mack at center btw. I’m reminded because of how they repeatedly dropped down in that draft in order to stockpile additional draft picks. Ya know some of the picks they used in the draft in which they chose Richardson, Weeden and Schwartz? The Triplet Hall of Shame!
I think Mack was drafted by Mangini. Right before Robiskie, Massaquoi… {cries}
Was he? Honestly with so many front office changes I can’t remember who did what when precisely. I just know that the moves made are compounded by who has been brought in and as a result 14 years later the current squad really isn’t all that much better then the first expansion team. Okay maybe that’s a bit of a stretch they aren’t that bad but they are certainly closer to that then they are better.
Charlie Foxtrot.
But was he wrong? Turns out Bernie was right all along…
Way to go on efforting this. Actually seeing it laid out somehow depresses me even further.
Drunk Bernie makes better reads than Weeden.
Oh, we sure can. –
– Utilizing only 5 picks for the their first year with a 5-11 team, while both Super Bowl teams used 13 picks. With so many holes on the team? Because they were so sure this year’s draft was bad and next year would be stellar. Look up Lombardi’s draft record. I am not confident in that decision.
– Treating next year like it is their first year is a mistake in and of itself.
– Signing “pass rushing specialist” Paul Kruger to a 4 year 40 million dollar deal. So far through 7 games? 1.5 sacks. That money will prevent us from filling other holes and resigning good players down the line.
– Giving up two draft picks for Bess, who is, let’s be honest, just a shorter, slower Greg Little.
– While the Richardson trade is looking good, why were they so cavalier about the running back situation before? We went into the season thin at RB, now after the trade we’re lost. Fozzy Whitaker? Opening day we had 3 backs. According to them RB is not an important position. Guess what? It is.
I don’t think there was any real argument otherwise from the beginning 🙂
Loser: The fans. We deserve better.
Mingo. He gets bounced around like a ping pong ball. Not worthy for a number 6 overall. More of a special teams guy.