Cleveland Browns Game Two: Winners and Losers

Who caught your eye? Did someone stand out? Who blew it? That’s what were interested in this morning. Winners and losers.


Good grief.

That was a pretty ugly display of football Sunday. At least from the offense. Let’s get it started.

WINNER: Jordan Cameron. The Browns tight end caught five passes for 95 yards. Cameron is looking like a legit NFL tight end, which we just didn’t know entering the season. Unfortunately, he was about the only positive thing on the offensive side of the ball.

LOSER: Greg Little. Little was targeted 12 times and had four catches. Officially, Little has only been guilty of two dropped passes. Those who have watched both games this year know better. Can anyone name a WR that got drastically better at hanging on to the football after his third year? I’m losing hope for Little.

LOSER: Brandon Weeden. I am certainly not trying to insinuate that the struggles of the offense are all on Weeden. I think we all could see that wasn’t the case yesterday. I’m saying that Weeden is losing his chance to prove anything in this league. He could have been better. The line could have been better. The receivers could have been better. Bottom line is that the Browns lost and the offense stunk, and he’s the quarterback.

LOSER: Coaching staff. Man, I really hoped I would be done putting the coaches in the Loser column after last year. That was ugly. What in the world is the problem with getting plays into the huddle? Three delay of game penalties? On big third downs to boot? Not utilizing Trent Richardson on key third downs? Oof.

WINNER: Barkevious Mingo. He didn’t have a spectacular game neccesarily, but you have to love him getting to the quarterback on his first snap on defense. Nice. Keep working.

WINNER: Billy Cundiff. Hey, he was the only Brown to score. He hit a 51 yard field goal in a pretty hostile environment. Credit where it is due.

Alright, it’s your turn. I saved plenty for you.

  • Harv 21

    Sorry, I have to spew this somewhere.

    Loser: The Truth. As in Banner saying in the initial presser and repeating later: “You won’t find two less patient people than the two of us” (i.e., Banner and Haslam). I’ve come around to something close to Kanicki’s position: you can’t change the losing culture by staying $30m under the cap yet not finding generically competent defensive backs and deferring your fourth and fifth rounders for fear of “too much youth.”

    I will forgive the right guard position because few teams have a competent third stringer ready to plug in. The rest is hard to swallow. Deferring watchable football to “build things the right way” is something we have been fed almost continually since ’99. The truth is no one on this roster (Kruger?) knows how to win a game, to make THE play, to deflate the will of the opponent. Instead we have synthetic substitutes like pre-game promises and in-game woofing – as in Phil Taylor extending a drive at the beginning of a game with a loser’s antics. We once had guys who knew how to make plays and end games – Clay and Bernie and Webster, Kevin Mack and Byner (absolutely Byner, for those who only know one ESPN highlight). I need this to end soon. Win. Now. I’m seriously at a tipping point with the Browns close to what I passed a few years ago with the Tribe.

    Best fear the apathy, Banner.


    Craig always touches on this with his kids, but in today’s media landscape where my 21-month-old son will have upwards of 20 teams at his disposal that can be watched on a weekly basis, I’m TERRIFIED that my son will never root for the Browns. Why would he? “Dad, why do you watch this crap every single year?” I have no answer for him.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    Winner: Other teams on third down – I can’t figure out why, but the Browns keep sending pressure on third down and keep getting blocked perfectly by the other team. I know we can’t ask Ray Horton to dial back the pressure on third down, and I’m not sure I would want that… what I do want is for the people rushing the quarterback to affect the play more often than not on third down. If that means Horton getting more creative, then so be it.

    Winner: Mingo – in limited time, that guy was flying around the field just like we hoped he would.

    Winner: Desmond Bryant – again, was the person I noticed most on defense as being a disruptive force

    Loser: The Browns – just about every week for way too long.

    Loser: Everyone on offense not named “Jordan Cameron” – Bess was effective too, for the most part, but every other player needs to hook up a 1,000-volt battery to their stones during halftime.

  • RGB

    But, but…Jim Nantz said Lombardi was the smartest man in the NFL.
    Combine that with Bannermetrics, how can we possibly lose?
    How?… :/

  • Harv 21

    right. And (he says, bile still spewing) treating a full season as completely disposable is toxic after the string we’ve had. I’m thinking Banner is paying lip service to the alacrity thing – much like Holmgren just didn’t get it when letting Mangini hang a whole year just because of his personal bias toward being nice to fellow coaches. Our children will have ever more entertainment choices. Even if they watch the NFL, it’s easier than ever – as evidenced by this website – to follow your fav team wherever you are.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    Your idea for switching the roles of Little and Richardson is my favorite thing that I have read all day.

  • Hopwin

    Are you saying Richardson ran well? I considered him a non-factor all day.

  • Hopwin

    Ineffective run defense is still ineffective.

  • Hopwin

    That Julio Jones trade is looking worse by the day too.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    No, he’s saying the run defense played well, and I agree. It was the third down pass defense that allowed the Ravens to keep piling up rushing attempts. Reflecting on that game, the run defense seemed really solid to me.

  • Ezzie Goldish

    Every time I hear the radio heads saying Little is a converted RB and I watch Trent in the open field vs. Trent behind an unmoving line that’s what pops into my head.

  • Hopwin

    Flip it around, if Richardson put up 100 yards and a TD would you say he had a crappy game or a good game?

  • nj0

    Oh, I agree completely. Especially because (from what I’ve read since I have not watched this swill) a multitude of the problems seem to have to do with the personnel on the field and the front offices complete lack of urgency.

    But I like Trestman. He seems to know how to lead men (even though they were Canadians). More importantly, he’s a guy I would like to root for.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    On 28 attempts? I would say crappy… I’m all about yards/attempt with RBs, assuming they aren’t running mostly in short-yardage situations. Most of Rice and Pierce’s rushing attempts were 1st and long, 2nd and long scenarios. I think it also says something that the Ravens didn’t try to run in 3rd and short situations… they had Flacco passing.

  • Hopwin

    That’s a fair assessment.

  • The_Matt_Of_Akron

    Arian Foster started in 2009 as an undrafted free agent. Hardesty was selected in 2010.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Mingo was a winner for just being able to breath let alone play.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I thought he made some good points about Weeden’s play though.

  • BuckeyeDawg

    Making the city of Cleveland apathetic about football would be an amazing accomplishment. But it’s not that far fetched at the moment.

  • mgbode

    I think he’s including the time after the game breaking things

  • Wow

    Loser: Travis Benjamin, guy looks terrified on punt returns. Or he doesn’t bother to catch the punt costing us 20 yards.

  • Wow

    Loser- Weeden. He’s pretty much costing himself his job.

    Loser- Offense. Delay of game and illegal formation. Does any other team do this? HS teams don’t even do that!

  • saggy

    I was talking about WEEDEN!!

  • Sam

    and the 8+ beers.

  • mgbode

    that would mean no Joe Thomas. shut.your.mouth.

  • dljenni

    Winner: Brandon Weeden. He didn’t throw any picks, and now with his bum finger, he won’t be playing this week. He’s started 17 games. I was a fan of his, but how long can you look like a high school quarterback before we change?

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    That’s right it would I guarantee they’d have won more games.

  • RGB

    Don’t you badmouth Mangenius. You’ll bring down the blustering righteous wrath of you-know-who.