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Browns’ Ray Farmer attended Alabama-Texas A&M to scout Johnny Manziel

Cleveland Browns assistant general manager Ray Farmer was in College Station on Saturday afternoon, reportedly to scout much-discussed Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel. While it was mentioned in passing on NBC’s Sunday Night Football, Sports Illustrated’s Peter King reports in his most recent “Monday Morning Quarterback” column, that Farmer was in attendance for the college season’s most anticipated game in order to watch the nation’s most talked about player.

While the Heisman Trophy winner’s team fell short, he did not disappoint by putting up 562 yards of total offense against one of the nation’s best defenses. Manziel, in his third year of eligibility at Texas A&M, could declare for the 2014 draft but continues to be one of the more polarizing players in the game due to immense talent married with a bevy of off-field issues. Most recently, Manziel was the subject on an NCAA investigation wherein the player allegedly benefitted from multiple autograph brokers. He was deemed not guilty, but was suspended for a half of the team’s Opening Day contest against Rice due to the the violation of NCAA bylaw 12.5.2.1 which states that student-athletes cannot permit their names or likenesses to be used for commercial purposes, including to advertise, recommend or promote sales of commercial products, or accept payment for the use of their names or likenesses.

The Browns, now 0-2 on the 2013 season, have once again fell victim to poor play from second-year quarterback Brandon Weeden. Weeden was the second-first round draft selection of the Browns just one season ago. Unfortunately, his team has scored just one touchdown on the year and has converted on just five of 29 third-down plays. Manziel, just 6-foot-1 and playing largely in a spread offense, isn’t considered to be a prototypical quarterback prospect, but continues to draw some comparison’s to Seattle’s Russell Wilson.

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  • JHop

    At this point I really don’t care who our QB is. I’m almost ready to say that Brian Hoyer should start, just so we can get all warm and fuzzy about a homegrown kid starting for our good ol’ Browns.

  • cmm13

    If the Cleveland Browns draft Johnny NCAA Football, you can pretty much roll up the stadium, reclaim the land and open up another lakefront airport to complete the joke on the city.

  • BuckeyeDawg

    Guy just dropped 42 points and 562 yards on Alabama. As long as he proves he has the arm to make the “NFL throws”, go for it. He’s a gamer and he’s not short on confidence. He’s at his best when the play breaks down. Would be nice to see a guy with some swagger running our offense for a change.

    All he has to do is not be terrible, and it would be an upgrade.

  • 216in614

    Lets see the little punk with our receivers and O-Line. LOL He’ll look like Tebow…

  • JHop

    Agreed. What I’d really like to see one of the national columnists do is a side-by-side comparison of Manziel and Tebow, factoring in things such as throwing motion, attitude, leadership, etc. to get a good grasp on how Manziel might do in the NFL. Particularly since the two are compared quite a bit.

  • I hope this is just due diligence and nothing more. I really don’t want anything to do with Manziel. They can’t tell us all about not drafting Mathieu because of character concerns and then burn a high draft pick on an undersized, character flawed QB. I still say the only guys you want are Bridgewater or Boyd.

  • mgbode

    the one thing that scares me about Johnny Football is that he is Favre w/o the size/arm strength (throwing the football). he’ll make some great throws, but they are extremely dangerous and I expect a BIG adjustment period to NFL DB’s.

    I wish Farmer was at the Bruins vs. Huskers game this past weekend instead and could see Hundley leading WRs perfectly and making the correct decisions.

  • mgbode

    it could very well be he was there to scout the other ~15 NFL prospects playing in that game

  • JHop

    Completely agree. Manziel should be no higher than the 6th or 7th QB on anyone’s big board at this point.

  • JHop

    Ok this story is very misleading. King says “Browns assistant GM Ray Farmer scouted the game”. For all we know he was there scouting elite safety prospect Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix (yes that is a real player with a real name who I want the Browns to draft so we can all own that awesome jersey). Or maybe he was there to look at AJ McCarron or any one of the dozens of NFL prospects that annually play for either Texas A&M or Bama.

  • JHop

    Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix!!

  • BuckeyeDawg

    I would like to see that breakdown as well. Some people see Tebow. I see more Kaepernick. I would want to make sure he has the arm strength so we don’t end up with Colt 2.0.

  • Harv 21

    and, since we will apparently be drafting pretty high again, it’s wise to appear interested in everybody. They did a good job before the last draft of not leaking their interest in Mingo. No tea leaves to read here.

  • cmm13

    Kaepernick if he would have stopped growing in the 9th grade.

  • cmm13

    Don’t laugh, that’s his real name!
    ….see what I did there?

  • Natedawg86

    He makes some bad decisions with the football too that will not work in the NFL, like throwing across the field to the right while running to the left off balance

  • Natedawg86

    Who in the heck sees Tebow? Manziel can throw the football!

  • mgbode

    I believe QBs have to pay Favre $5 every time they attempt that throw for patent infringement.

  • I think this years draft has to be an RG3 situation. They need to go through every second of tape they have available on these guys and decide who they like and absolutely sell out if they’re not in a position to draft him. This QB guessing game garbage is old. It’s time to sell those picks and get a top flight guy.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I wondered if anyone would mention poor AJ, finally, good job! I can smell it coming already. We went through the whole RG3 debacle and here comes Manziel. This kid is such a loose cannon, undisciplined, free wheeling, off the cuff, off the field problems that if I were the Cleveland Browns I’d be scared you know what. Of course all of this means nothing which means he’ll probably be their guy if he enters the draft and if they are in a spot to select him.

  • JHop

    Speaking of RG3, it’s starting to look like our missing out on him wasn’t the end of the world after all. I’ve already seen Redskins fans calling for Cousins to start week 3 instead of him.

  • JK

    Care to actually elaborate on your point? Or are you just trying to be funny?

  • cmm13

    I’m working HERE!
    Elaboration; Manziels size and play does not in my eyes translate to the NFL.
    His speed is a great factor in college but against NFL DE’s and LB’s in my opinion he will be a consistently injury plagued QB.
    His exciting play is not because he understand the game, what the d gives him and capitolizes on it.
    As someone said below, he’s the 6th or 7th best NFL QB on the board right now.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    To avoid the entire pre-injury soap opera it probably wasn’t but him getting hurt is what has caused his problems. Until then he was doing much better then I imagined. I don’t like these run around pistol QBs myself. I would much prefer an intelligent drop back but still semi mobile guy. Maybe that’s why I’m a Teddy B. fan. He looks like one of those former kind of QBs but plays like the latter.

  • Jeremy

    Russell Wilson……. 5′-11 206. Johnny Manziel…… 6′-1 210. Play is pretty similar except Manziel plays in the SEC and Wilson played in Big 10. Pretty sure Wilson’s play has translated pretty darn good in the NFL.

  • Denny

    Last I checked Tebow is available so I don’t even know why the Browns would bother looking anywhere but to St. Timothy.

  • It’s worth noting that some places list Manziel at 6’1″ and some list him at 5’11”. I lean towards the lesser of the two. He doesn’t look a legit 6 ft.

  • cmm13

    Manziel is listed at 6-1, 210 which means at the combine he will shake out to 5-11, 195.
    Yes, very similar to Russell Wilson’s size and stature.
    And yes, Wilson has translated well to the NFL. My question to you is, does Manziel under Chud and Norv do the same thing?
    I don’t think it does

  • BenRM

    “Gamer”, “Winner”, “It Factor”, and “Poise” are all words I wish could be removed from the national lexicon while discussing quarterbacks.

  • BenRM

    Wilson is a smarter player with a better arm though.

  • mgbode

    at least we’d get some talk and highlights on Sportscenter

  • Harv 21

    Pretty certain that would be the best thing to ever happen to WFNY. Like, ever ever.

  • Jay

    No joke – a guy at work is dead serious about the Browns need to bring Tebow in. I had to walk away before my head exploded.

  • RGB

    Maybe he was scouting Nick Saban…

  • deesh

    the only issue here is that there’s a huge gap in maturity between RW & JM

  • dcdawg

    Physical similarities aside, let’s not compare Manziel to Russell Wilson. One has class and humility and the other does not. Done.

  • The_Matt_Of_Akron

    No way, we gotta get that undersized quarterback from the state of Texas who’s a proven winner!

  • Jeremy

    Seriously I am not sold on Manziel, but to play devil’s advocate- Chud didn’t do a bad job with Cam Newton adjusting their playbook to his NCAA QB style. I think year two saw them get away from it more…. But I think they could adjust. I think I would be more comfortable with Bridgewater, or Boyd. Again, though, those are two guys that run the same offense in college.

  • cmm13

    Agreed Cam looked good in year one, and then dropped off in year two.
    I didn’t honestly pay attention to the Panthers much the past two years so I can’t speak to whether or not it was Cam’s talent in year one carrying him and then Chud tried to convert him out of that NCAA offense in year two. But I’ve read Panther fans didn’t shed a tear to see Chud leave.

    My list (in week 3 of the NCAA season) is: Mariota, Bridgewater, Boyd.
    The way we are playing we will have shots at all 3.

  • cmm13

    FOR THE WIN!

  • saggy

    Doug Flutie couldn’t play in the NFL either. And Drew Brees, you know – being only 5’11” – can’t play either..

  • saggy

    he threw for 320 yards and 3 touchdowns against the Packers. that’s an entire season for Weeden.

  • saggy

    one has a win over a Number-1 program (the best program maybe of all-time) and a Heisman, and one does not.

    Also, one is a 20-year old and one is not.

  • Phil Smith

    Wilson played mostly in the ACC and due to dumb NCAA rules, he was allowed to transfer to Wisconsin because he had already graduated in three years and enrolled in a graduate program at Wisco not offered at NC State after he lost his starting job to Mike Glennon. Russell Wilson was too busy playing Minor League Baseball to really give a crap about football in the college offseason. Russell Wilson is the better athlete and better thrower than Manziel. Russell Wilson became an NFL superstar because he finally started to actually train FOR football, not baseball, and tapped into that potential.