NFL Rumor: Browns among teams interested in Davone Bess
April 24, 2013The Browns and the First Round: Barkevious Mingo
April 25, 2013While We’re Waiting serves as the early morning gathering of WFNY-esque information for your viewing pleasure. Have something you think we should see? Send it to our tips email at tips@waitingfornextyear.com.
What Cleveland fans deserve- “4. A tone setting defensive player. This blue collar city deserves a linebacker or defensive lineman that will put the fear of god in an opposing quarterback. A mean spirited monster who sheds weak blocks and tramples linemen on the way into the backfield. A wrecking ball that a quarterback keeps in his peripheral vision and keeps a countdown timer in his head on every play for.
Cleveland’s defensive teams have lacked the “identity” player that resided in the fearless defenses of the ’80’s and ’90’s teams. That player may be a hard hitting/ball hawk safety, or a physical specimen at DL/LB. Every team in the AFC North possesses at least one or two players of this caliber.” [Finney/Dawgs by Nature]
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“Gilbert and Grant were gushing about Brown this entire press conference. About how nobody has the knowledge and commitment to the game like Mike Brown. There were thinly-veiled contrasts to Byron Scott, to whom Gilbert thanked for his work individually with the young guys, but Gilbert spoke about a ‘holistic’ growth now in order. If there is one thing that many of us here at C:TB lamented this year, it was the lack of identity, and the appearance that the Cavs were never more than the sum of their parts. The organization felt the same way. Mike Brown is their guy. They are married to him now. They got exactly who they wanted. They never wanted Phil Jackson, or Stan Van Gundy. They did a half-ass ‘reaching out’ to appease all of us hyperventilating fans. They wanted Mike Brown the whole time. And Mike Brown would have moved back to Cleveland to play Dad-in-the-stands (working the refs) at St. Ed’s. Getting back into the highest level of his profession, and working towards “unfinished business” was the 20 million dollar icing on the cake. I know my colleagues range from puzzled to downright furious that the Cavs didn’t follow some due process. But if you were married to someone for 6 years, split up, desperately missed one another, and then met up for dinner and realized that it was always meant to be, are you gonna go you separate ways and “still see other people”. No. That’s ridiculous. You’re going right back to the courthouse and claiming your old side of the bed back. They didn’t hire Mike Brown out of desperation. He was coming to Cleveland regardless. They hired him back because he is Dan Gilbert and Chris Grant’s coach. Thanks for the fling, Byron. You’re a good dude. ”It’s not you, it’s me.” [Pestak/Cavs the Blog]
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It seems that school up north needs incentives for it’s students to come to the football games– “Brady Hoke promises free donuts to Michigan students for noon home games.” [Schwab/Dr. Saturday]
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“We’ll hear the complaints that Brown’s offenses stagnated in critical moments, that his rotations buried potentially useful players and that he deferred to assistant coaches instead of making definitive decisions on his own. This team has not seen a critical basketball moment in three seasons. If Mike Brown, now 43 years old, can help resurrect the importance of the moments the team faces, perhaps the lessons learned in his 30s as one of the youngest coaches in the league can take him further now, in his 40s.
Mike Brown is set up to succeed this time. He joins the team after they have already bottomed out, quit on a head coach, and failed to play defense with any kind of consistency. His best player, a 21 year old wildly talented on the offensive end of the floor, has provided nothing on the other end through his short professional career. Kyrie Irivng and the rest of core of the team have all been in the league for less than 2 years, short enough to unlearn bad habits. Anderson Varejao, one of Brown’s greatest achievements, is still on the team. They are loaded with draft picks and financial flexibility. They are set to make a run at the 2014 free agency pool at exactly the point when Brown’s young squad will be ready to take the step forward and play playoff games in Cleveland.” [Jackson/Stepien Rules]
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Old pal Victor Martinez had an interesting play at the plate. As the runner. [Fairservice/Getting Blanked]
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Finally, our buddy Michael Brenkus helped us visualize what the Draft Day movie poster might look like, now that Arian Foster is on board…
19 Comments
After reading this:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/d-j-hayden-draft-miracle-story-probably-died-142612017–ncaaf.html
I am no longer a proponent of the Hayden and Haden secondary. Go Browns, draft well.
yeah, he was a 3rd round prospect before the injury. That 40time helped soar his stock (in the media). when you factor in that Star may have dropped a bit from an irregular heartbeat (ended up being caused by losing too much weight too fast), then you’d think this one would be more seriously considered.
Michigan fans need donuts to cheer for their team.
Im confused by Pestaks metaphor. Are Brown and Gilbert remarried? Brown and Grant? Or did they go with the ‘ol “Provo Party Pack”? Do I have to buy yet another wedding gift? If so what do you get for remarriges? I usually follow Robert Wuhls advice about candlesticks but I just don’t know.
I’d also like that tone-setting guy on defense, the snot-bubble pass rusher, the guy the center points to and screams about before the snap. Kind of guy the Ravens and Steelers keep finding, it seems, without half-trying.
But “the fearless defenses of the ’80′s and ’90′s teams”? Not sure how old this writer was when (if) he watched those teams play. The lack of a fearless defense to match the fearless offenses was their undoing. Ferocious players were absent. Don Rogers’s hitting was feared for one year before tragedy. Chip Banks dominated maybe two, before his personal issues. Clay was truly smart and excellent at everything about linebacking, but not tone-setting. Michael Dean had his moments but a change in scheme reduced his impact. Hanford and Minnie were shutdown corners at a time running was more important. They screwed up drafts trying to find that ferocious guy (Junkin, Charlton)
This is why I try not to repeat that Jim Brown was history’s greatest player. Best to see something before you opine about it.
Browns must be screwing with the Draft guys. Mayock says he hears Geno Smith. Others say Milliner. Breer says trade up for pass rush, Jason Cole thinks they are staying at 6 for pass rush, while some think trade down. Even McShay thinks we are drafting Eiffert at 6! I have no idea who we will take, and thats probably a great thing. be smart Browns, continue to be smart
I feel like Navin Johnson this morning..”the new phone books are here!”
why do I have this nagging feeling that they’re not going to be able to trade out, but then they’re going to trade Rubin for a second rounder and take Lotuleilei?
What was the Tigers 3rd base coach thinking when he sent Victor against Franceour’s arm?!
or, they just made the student section “General Admission”, the students are angry about this, and this is a means of trying to appease them.
But here’s the thing: how can you say the 40 time created an unreliable media-fueled rise in his draft status, when his earlier standing as a “3rd round prospect” was nothing but an assessment of … the media? We’ll find out tonight, or maybe Friday, where actual teams place him on the board. And if a GM actually moved him from a potential third to first rounder after his 40 time, maybe a valid speed concern was what did it.
[This is my Joe Banner Smiling Hurts My Face face]
that is fair. however, in the games I saw, I never thought “wow, this guy is great, I hope we get him” that is something I like to have for a 1st round pick.
time is ticking away now. almost here.
I don’t see him offering donuts for later afternoon and night games.
wow…never seen that before haha
Joe Banner = Skeletor
yeah, that eyeball test is like the only thing I demand in a first round pick. If you don’t see it in a corner probably shouldn’t be on of the first 32 players.
Me, if I’ve only seen YouTube highlights I don’t trust my judgement unless it’s a RB or WR. Watching Tavon Austin’s highlights it was obvious that very few humans have ever been able to change directions at those speeds and make people miss like that on a football field. The boy is going to score some TDs in the NFL.
I’d add LBer to that youtube list. Sometimes, you can just see that instinct and force.
It’s amazing that with all the statistical advances, etc. the ole eyeball test still does wonders 🙂
Currently, tea in China is selling for $4 a pound
The LBs fool me, what with inferior opposing blockers and ball carriers making them look stronger, faster and more explosive than they sometimes are. Te’o probably has quite the YouTube hits, but it’s good that everyone saw him against pro level competition in a bowl game. He may be a good one, but he no longer seems like the can’t miss impact guy.