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Mingo Draft night

Mingo Draft nightWith their first pick in the draft, number six overall, the Cleveland Browns selected OLB/DE Barkevious Mingo. The Browns do not own a second round selection, but do have six draft picks left.

Third round, sixth pick- (68 overall)

Fourth round, seventh pick- (104 overall)

Fifth round, sixth pick- (139 overall)

Fifth round, thirty-first pick- (164 overall)

Sixth round, pick seven- (175 overall)

Seventh round, twenty-first pick- (227 overall)

The second and third rounds will take place tonight, starting at 6:30 pm. Saturday will be the remaining 4 rounds, beginning at noon.

Team needs: CB, S, TE, G, WR, ILB

Following the selection of Mingo, Browns CEO Joe Banner was asked about whether he was confident the team could find a corner back in the later rounds. His response indicated that the team had no intention of taking a player that they didn’t think would be a long term solution. That they would not just draft a player because they have a need at a certain position-

“As we’ve said all along, we’re really not going to force filling a need on a short-term basis as opposed to building the team we want to have to get really good and sustain it. We’ll certainly, at corner as well as at other positions, be looking for somebody we feel can fill the spot and do so for a while and do it at championship level. If that situation presents itself that would be great but if not we’re not going to force it. We’re not going to fill all the needs of the team this year, it’s just not going to happen, I’ll tell you right now. If there’s a guy there we think can be a long-term solution and quality player, we’ll pick him. If it’s just somebody that upgrades us for this year and then we’ll need to replace again, we won’t.”

If what Banner said is true, then the Browns will not necessarily go after the best CB available when they pick in the third round tonight. It would not surprise me if they did find a corner they liked with that pick however.

Four cornerbacks were taken in the first round, but there is depth at the position. A couple of names to watch for- Darius Slay from Mississippi State and Logan Ryan from Rutgers. Word is the Browns are high on those two, and could have their choice between them at 68 overall.

Mel Kiper said that safety may be the deepest position left on the board, which is good news for the Browns. The top three came off the board last night, but one player that may be there when they pick in the third or possibly the fourth round is D.J. Swearinger from South Carolina. The Browns had Swearinger in for a visit and a workout recently. He does seem to be more of a typical strong safety, but with Ward’s injury history it doesn’t hurt to have another safety that can make hits and help with run support. From his NFL.com draft profile-

“He’s played in every game since he arrived on campus, except for the 2012 matchup against Missouri, for which he was suspended after a hit on a defenseless receiver. He has played both free and strong safety, and his good performances as a spot duty at corner against big receivers suggests he has the potential to cover NFL tight ends in coverage well. He projects to be a day two pick.”

Only one ILB was chosen on the first day, but this is not a very good draft for the position. LSU’s Kevin Minter might be a name to watch for.

The Browns took a look at TE Travis Kelce from Cincinnati pre-draft. He seems to be a bit more of a project. He could be there a few rounds later however. Gavin Escobar from San Diego State is perhaps the top TE left on the board, but could get swallowed up in round two. Good pass cather.

Three guards were picked in the first round, but Kentucky’s Larry Warford remains. He could be the upgrade Browns fans are looking for at the right guard spot.

So what are the chances the Browns trade back into the second round?

I would say not very good. It has less to do with what is available and more to do with what assets the Browns have to trade. They have the sixth pick in the third round, which they could give plus say a fifth rounder to get into the back half of the second round. If there was someone that they really liked falling a bit it is conceivable that they could pull the trigger. I would venture a guess that they would be hesitant to come away with less picks however.

 

  • AMC

    “We’re not going to fill all the needs of the team this year, it’s just not going to happen, I’ll tell you right now.” – Joe Banner

    I understand where he’s coming from, but I have two issues with this statement:

    1) He’s making it sitting on a league high $33 million in cap room. Sure, free agency isn’t going to solve all your problems or necessarily provide long term answers everywhere, but I have a hard time believing that someone out there couldn’t have been useful for the Browns secondary. Also, Banner admitted that he had a trade ready to go if they wanted to get out of pick 6. If you’re already admitting that you’ve got a lot of holes to fill, why not give yourself more draft picks and take the best player available there. I’m not saying Mingo was necessarily a bad pick, he just doesn’t seem to be on paper significantly more impressive than players picked later in the round.2) 2) This statement is basically a concession from this front office that the Browns are going to stink again next year, and I’m sick of the losing.

  • I don’t have one of those handy draft equivalent charts but can we trade two 5ths and a 6th for a 2nd or 3rd?

  • BenRM

    I agree with Banner. You don’t spend money or add players simply for the sake of adding them. In the long run, if they’re a bad player, it’s a waste and a drain on your resources.

    I’d much rather feel confident with what I was able to add and leave myself room to add more as it became available than to lock myself up with a lot of bad talent.

  • MrCleaveland

    Well since everyone knows we need a CB, S, TE, G, WR, and ILB, I’m sure some media “expert” (that would be you, Mike Florio) will float some piece of doo-doo that we’re going to trade up to get Geno Smith.

    Florio should lose his Tweeting privileges over that.

  • mgbode

    can we make sure we list Josh Gordon as our 2nd round pick?

  • Harv 21

    would you accept that for your second or third rounder? Second rounders are expected to be real contributing long-term starters. Third rounders decent starters, or quality back-ups. Fifth rounders are more often special teamers, sixths often don’t make the final training camp cut.

  • mgbode

    i’m between you and AMC here. while I agree that you don’t want to lockup subpar talent, I also think you can get some of these guys in on 1 year deals to bandaid it for now.

    i completely disagree with AMC on the trade-down though. if you think Mingo is an elite talent, then you have to take him. you cannot trade down just to plug holes in the draft. elite talents are hard to find.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    I’m in agreement with you, that statement really did not sit right with me. I get that you are building a team for the long haul and maybe you want to use your draft picks for that. Great, do that. But fill the holes with 1-2 year deals in free agency then. Banner said “If it’s just somebody that upgrades us for this year and then we’ll need to replace again, we won’t,” and I really hope he didn’t mean through free agency as well as through the draft. That is just pure idiocy as it points to Banner being okay with losing this season, and I am not cool with that. If Banner intends to suck in order to grab a QB prospect high in the draft next season, I’m going to be pissed off. I don’t know if I can stomach another 4-12 season.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    This is my thought too, should have mentioned in my comment that I don’t agree with his view about picking Mingo.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    You Tweet?

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I have to keep reminding myself because missing that second does hurt.

  • AMC

    I agree that if Mingo proves to be elite talent, then there’s no issue picking him at 6 instead of trading down. I just hope the Browns are right about Mingo being elite talent.

  • mgbode

    as do we all

  • Natedawg86

    where would you slot Gordon in this draft? Best WR?

  • Natedawg86

    Anytime you move down you are potentially getting more good players instead of one great and one good player. I also am OK to see what else Weeden has this year. He is no Eli Manning, but a lot of QBs sucked their first year and went on to be a lot better or at the very least servicable. By giving up on Weeden now, we would be throwing away a first round pick from last year. There are a handful of stud QBs coming out next year and I can think of 3 that very well may be better than anyone from this years draft.

  • Harv 21

    Today’s rumor has Browns making mixed player/draft pick offers to move into second round for Geno Smith.

    OK, I totally made it up, but why do we always have to wait for someone else to make it up.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    I think this is true and maybe if I was a younger fan who just started following the Browns I would see the big picture and think that I could wait a year to get a top-of-the-draft QB before being (possibly) competitive again. I can’t take another bad year from the Browns though. I can’t take another year of sucking to get a guy who *might* be the guy at QB. This team has plenty of talent, it’s time to start winning. If Banner & Company find after this year that Weeden isn’t the guy but still manage to win 8 or 9 games, then so be it. Find the best QB to fall to you in the draft and turn him into the guy or else pull a Redskins move and trade a ton of draft picks to move up.

  • mgbode

    equal to Patterson and Terrance Williams. So, late 1st / early 2nd.

  • mgbode

    Nope, today it is Peter King and he’s suggesting we put in our 2014 1st round pick (which is an absolutely stacked draft class and would be mind-numbingly stupid to do):

    His words (and at least he’s not saying he has a source that this will happen, but the suggestion itself is ludicrous):

    1. I think the second round mock draft is the province of my friend Don Banks, and you can look for it on this site shortly. But I wouldn’t put Geno Smith in Jacksonville; the Jags have many other positions they want to solidify, I’m told. But what if Jags GM David Caldwell gets into the office today and has three calls from teams wanting that pick to take Geno? And what if one of those calls involves a first-round pick in 2014? If I’m Caldwell, and Cleveland calls with that offer (plus a small sweetener), I’m going to have to do it. In any case, Geno Smith at 33 overall, even with his leadership and decision-making flaws, is the kind of gamble a quarterback-needy team should make.

    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-nfl-draft/news/20130426/2013-nfl-draft-first-round-reaction-peter-king/#ixzz2RaYT4fw0

  • humboldt

    My preferred rumor is the one where we get Geno Smith AND Ryan Mallet

  • Vindictive_Pat

    If I didn’t have last season to go on, I wouldn’t slot him as the best… there were too many questions at the time. After seeing him last season, I would definitely put him as the top prospect at WR in this draft class.

  • So what you’re really saying is that your rooting interests (be good immediately) aren’t in line with the Browns’ interests as a franchise (be sustainably good even if it takes some time). I get the frustration, but coming from that perspective you’ll never be satisfied with anything they do.

  • I heard that Haslam wants to trade T. Rich to Washington so he can garner favor with Congress so he can get the IRS and FBI off his back.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    No sir, what I am saying is that Banner is wrong… the Browns can be good immediately and also in the long term by spending money on 1-2 year free agent deals for players who will ultimately be replaced.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    My favorite part of these decisions from Peter King and others is that they are thinking somebody has to take Geno Smith, so it should therefore be the Browns. Good reasoning, no?

  • mgbode

    about as good as we are used to on draft days in the past 🙂

  • MrCleaveland

    I tweet nought.

  • MrCleaveland

    So, are we trading up to get Mante T’eo?

  • humboldt

    TRich is “Ordinary” and Haslam’s victims were “unsophisticated” so seems like a logical fit

  • Harv 21

    funny, I just read that … confirmed!

  • Harv 21

    there should be a WFNY podium announcement in what would have been the Browns’ slot:

    “With the whatever pick in the second round, the Cleveland Browns select … Josh Gordon, wide receiver, Baylor University and the University of Utah kinda sorta.”

    I would cheer wildly and immediately lose that empty feeling, even while Lombardi looks on all glum-like and judgey.

  • The_Matt_Of_Akron

    I like how we’d apparently have to add a “small sweetner” to that deal to get Jacksonville to take it.

    Ugh.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    Would a sugar packet work? I think I can steal one from the office without being caught.

  • But what caliber of player are you getting on the 1-2 year deal? The better players get longer deals from other teams. So, you’re left in the position the Browns are in today – signing 1-year stop gap players who aren’t as good (only after the draft instead of before it). Instead of reaching on the draft pick for a “maybe” guy, they got a top-tier guy they think they won’t have to replace for the next 5 years or so.

  • The_Matt_Of_Akron

    I believe Shahid Khan is more of a Splenda(TM) man, but if this heist is going down you’ll need a team. I hope you remember your team from the Cleveland’s Eleven thread.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    The caliber of the player is “stop-gap”, and that’s all you’re looking for. You want someone better than the guy you have, who I wouldn’t even consider to be a stop-gap solution. Basically, you’re getting an older proven player, maybe towards the end of his career. You’re talking about getting a guy in the draft who can be the solution. I’m talking about the organization saying that if they can’t get a guy in the draft, they’re not going to bring in someone as a short solution. That’s what I’m saying is dumb.