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Report: Bobcats still shopping second-overall pick

Alex Kennedy of Hoopsworld reports that the Charlotte Bobcats are shopping the second overall pick in the upcoming NBA draft, despite team statements that they are set at taking a player at two-

“The Charlotte Bobcats continue to shop the second overall pick. Only one problem… “They want A LOT in return,” said league source.”

Interesting. What exactly is A LOT? Multiple picks? A combination of picks and players?

Then there is also this from Kennedy-

“The New Orleans Hornets are shopping the tenth pick. They’d move it if the right deal came along. They want a guard,” said a league source.”

Could the Cavaliers package anything to move from 24 to 10?

[Related: What do the Cavaliers have to do?]

  • Would 24, 33, 34 and Boobie be enough for the 10th? If they could get a wing at 4, then Zellers at 10, that would be a big time draft.

  • Return of the (Alex) Mack

    Anthony Parker is a guard 

  • baclap

    I’m actually glad the move to 1 fell through. Seemed like an awful lot to give up. I don’t expect us to make the same offer for 2, but if I had to guess I’d say that’s what “a lot” means. A move to 10 sounds nice though. Maybe we could get Zeller and move Varejao.

  • baclap

    I was thinking Zeller too. After watching Collison contribute in a big way last night somehow Zeller is more appealing to me.

  • BenRM

    Honestly, I’d still probably make the NO offer to the Bobcats.

    I believe that, In the NBA, 1 awesome player is much more valuable than 1 really good player, 1 maybe-bench contribute, and 2 guys who probably won’t make the team. 

  • baclap

    That was supposed to be a reply @yahoo-I6423N7UCT3SVURBC55JGXFYAU:disqus 

  • Harv 21

    so is my dog. See ya, Anthony. With all due respect, of course.

  • Return of the (Alex) Mack

     So is Jason Pinkston, package all 3?

  • Harv 21

    Problem is deciding who is awesome and who is really good. Grant seems to have strong opinions which might not match those of whoever ends up owning picks #2 and 3. So he may decide it’s better to stay put. (I’d laugh if he picks Drummond b/c that’s the last thing anyone here expects)

  • BenRM

    That’s a fair point. 

  • Harv 21

    leave the dog. Take the canolli.

  • baclap

    I’d rather turn our 4, 24, 33, and 34 into 4 and 10 than into 2. But if it happened I wouldn’t be mad because what you said above is true.

  • The_Matt_Of_Akron

    Alex Jensen wonders if we’d ever considered trading down for more picks…..

  • mgbode

    I just don’t think NO wants #24,33,34 for #10.

    And, I don’t think when they say they want a guard they mean Parker or Gibson.  I think they are referring to someone with the ability to be an above average starter in the NBA.

    I do wonder if Andy+#24 might entice them though (depends on their Kaman plans I suppose).

  • mgbode

    The only Alex whose opinion I trust is Trebek’s.

  • Jaker

    #24+#33+Gibson(expiring)+Walton(expiring) for Okafor and #10 might seal the deal. Okafor adds a true center to the team and veteran frontcourt leadership with Andy. Then we get a SF+SG at 4 and 10 and we’re rolling

    Irving/Sloan
    Lamb/Harris
    MKG/Gee/Caspi
    Thompson/Andy/Samuels
    Okafor/Sims

    add in another two first rounders next year and this is a pretty nice start.

  • TSR3000

     No way.  Davis is the real deal. He is worth twice what we offered.

  • mgbode

    Walton has 1year left still.  Gibson, however, has a mostly non-guaranteed deal (which means he is an extra-bonus ‘expire-now’ if they want to cut $$$).

    Okafor’s contract is terrible, but if it gets us that kind of move-up (and we keep our frontcourt asset in Andy), then I’m game.

  • mgbode

    oh, we still have our #34 pick in your scenario.  please replace Sloan with Wroten (hey, I can hope he drops to the 2nd round like most places have him doing).

  • Blue_Guybrush

    Hell yes to Zeller. He’s got the physique, the drive, and if he can home his skills enough to be a starter, the ticket sales would be good news. 24+2nd rounders+a guard make it happen.

    On a side note, I’m suddenly regretting the Sessions trade pretty bad.

  • mgbode

    are you a Lakers employee?

  • Blue_Guybrush

    Haahahaha, it was a great trade at the time but if we could’ve sent Ramon over for this pick instead of #24 that would’ve been better.. plus I wasn’t really ready to give up on Skyenga.

  • cmm13

    Explain to me how we land MKG and Lamb with the 4 and 10?

  • Pete

    We take Lamb at 4 and MKG plunges to 10 due to his “terrible” combine and and sudden character concerns when I photoshop a picture of him standing with Axl Rose at a club

  • cmm13

    It’s all so clear now. Thank you!

  • saggy

    haha!  i read or saw somewhere that he ad-libbed that line.  great stuff!

  • BrownsFanSF

    We also actually kinda need to take on cap.  With Jamison off the books I believe we are pretty close to the salary floor.  We are a prime candidate to take bad contracts in exchange for assets

  • Jaker

    would love wroten in round 2, just dont see him falling far enough

  • Jaker

    MKG isn’t too much of a stretch at 4, and sub Rivers/Waiters/Ross or whatever SG you want at 10. The point is that we can make this deal and instantly improve

  • Jaker

    I thought Walton/Casspi/Boobie are all entering their final year this year. As in the 2012-13 season.

  • Jaker

    very true, plus Okafor’s contract is up before we need to resign Irving which means we’ll basically move Okafor’s contract onto Irving’s when he’s up

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  • Guest

    I’m intrigued by the possibility of drafting Perry Jones or Quincy Miller out of Baylor. Both are 6′ 10” SFs who can shoot and have the length to defend. Maybe we should grab Bradley Beal at 4 and move up with 24, 33, and 34 to get Jones or Miller to play SF or stretch PF. Neither had phenomenal stats in college, but the Cavs could use some length with Tristan Thompson being a little undersized. 

    On the other hand, I’m warming up to Harrison Barnes. I had heard that scouts thought he wasn’t very athletic, but he was among the best in the vertical jump and 3/4 court sprint in the entire draft. 

  • mgbode

    Ramon was a UFA (assuming he declines his player-option).   That means it was trade him or lose him (as he knew he wasn’t getting starter minutes behind Irving).

  • mgbode

    Gibson’s contract is non-guaranteed.  So, yes, he is entering his final year, but, yes, we can void that year (I think it’s a $1mil hit or something similar to do it)

  • mgbode

    not to mention Okafor has been relatively healthy for most of his career and despite his height actually complements Andy pretty well (he is better at taking on the bigger centers).

    I hate putting that much money on the cap for that many years, but to trade up and get a cheap player in the higher tiers of talent, then I think it’s worth it.

  • mgbode

    I don’t understand it either, but nearly every mock I look at has him going #30-40

  • cmm13

    agreed that aqcuiring the 10 for the 24, 33 and Gibson would assist us in improving the team with younger controlled talent.

    disagreed that MKG will slide to the 4. 

    If you take him off the board your deal now needs completely re-tooled to make our roster work.

  • BrownsFanSF

    Exactly!  Assuming Kyrie isn’t the MVP in two years and voids his rookie contract.  But I think that’s a bridge we’ll gladly cross if we come to it.

  • BrownsFanSF

    100% agree. Solid players under rookie contracts are worth their weight in gold in the NBA.  Even if we take on Okafor and Ariza (and the abominations that are their contracts), we’d get to underpay what ever contributor we get at the 10 for the first 4 years.  Kinda evens it out.