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Kyrie Irving hurt in ugly loss; Dan Gilbert takes to twitter again

First the bad news- Cavaliers Uber-Rookie Kyrie Irving suffered what the team is calling a sprained shoulder in the second quarter. He hit the ground with his shoulder (the same shoulder he separated in high school) but played through the pain and finished the game with 29 points, shooting a perfect 6-6 from behind the arc. Irving did not play in the fourth quarter.

The Cavaliers said he will travel with the team to New York tonight and will be re-evaluated. His status for tomorrow night’s game is very much up in the air. I would anticipate the Cavaliers erring on the side of caution with the young star.

Apparently, seeing “The Diff” of -37 blazing on the final scoreboard didn’t sit well with owner Dan Gilbert-

Tweet text: “One of those nights where I can’t find the words to match the emotions (at least non-profane words). Cavs fans deserve better. Much better.”

Not only did Gilbert tweet his frustration to the fans, but he met with GM Chris Grant and Head Coach Byron Scott after the loss. Asked about Gilbert’s words, Coach Scott said he agreed 100%.

  • BIKI024

    what does @cavsdan expect?  it’s one thing about lack of effort, but we just don’t have the talent to compete.  but we’d crush in the D-League.. good thing Kings won, 1 game closer to Top 5

  • nxmehta

    Simmer down Dan… most fans would be happy with the Cavs sucking for a couple more games if it means we get a better pick.

  • floydrubino

    Hey Dan JJ Hickson had 29 points tonight for Portland and you drafted him with your first pick a couple years ago and got rid of him for Omri Casspi. You are horrible with most decisions and have put together no talent on the roster other than Kyrie.  Hickson isn’t great but you got rid of him for nothing. It’s like a wasted 1st round pick. Other than Kyrie what pick has worked out for you in the last 5 years. Byron Scott is a class act. You and Grant and Ferry have put the roster together so take some responsibility for stinking. You have made one good decision in the last 5 years and you wonder why the team stinks. Gee I wonder. Gilbert is just as useless as Lerner. We live in a city where draft picks are crucial for our success because we can’t sign free agents and we have people scouting talent that are clueless.

  • It’s the Milwaukee Bucks. The Cavs should not be losing by 37 points, at home, to the Milwaukee Bucks. I don’t care if the Cavs lose games, but not showing up for a team with Brandon Jennings and Monta Ellis and no one else is ridiculous. I’d say the owner of a franchise who just put on that pitiful of a performance has a right to be furious. And to the guy trying to use JJ Hickson’s ONE productive game of the entire 2011-2012 NBA season to blast Gilbert for trading him, please stop. Thank you

  • agv

    Dint we refuse to give up JJ for Amare? 

  • What’s not to like? 😉 Embarrassing loss, sure. Am i happy with the end result, yes. It’s all about lottery position now. In reality i’m sure Dan Gilbert could care less about the blowout. He sees the fruits of having a terrible season in the guy wearing #2 on the floor every night. I just hope his kid represents again at the lottery and get’s us a high pick. Just LOSE baby!

  •  JJ Hickson is a head case. We would have traded him for a box of donuts. But Sacramento wanted to unload some of their garbage so we had to take Casspi. This time next year this roster is going to be totally different, and much improved.

  • saggy

    JJ scored more points last night than Amare will score for the rest of the year.  That’s why we didn’t want Amare.  And if you read quotes – from both sides of the deal – it was never about JJ, and the Cavs were never really that close.

  • cmm13

    Wow. Just….wow.

    I know it’s easy to be “angry Cleveland sports fan” but to call Dan Gilbert as useless as Randy Lerner and clamor for the return of JJ Hickson in the same comment is pretty horrific.

  • cmm13

    We weren’t looking at Casspi as garbage, Grant has been eyeing him for two years as a legit wing threat.

    He is just not comfortable with Byron’s offense and it’s going to take a whole new offseason for him to get there….if he ever does.

  • cmm13

    For a city so passionate about its sports you’d would assume there would be much more intelligent rationale here.

    Dans tweet is pandoring to his season ticket holders; nothing more, nothing less.

  • cmm13

    For a city so passionate about its sports you’d would assume there would be much more intelligent rationale here.

    Dans tweet is pandoring to his season ticket holders; nothing more, nothing less.

  • Humboldt

     Delonte West approves of your second sentence

  • Jack

    here, here

  • You’re right – Hickson is so wonderful – averaging 6 ppg and 5 rpg for Sacramento.  That would put us over the top.

  • Lyon25

    you got it man.  He’s not stupid, he knows what it’s going to take to get the better players here.  On the flipside, he is probably pretty pissed that they lost by so much.  He knows losing helps, but getting blown out by 37 hurts everything.  If they were losing by 5 every game he’d still get people watching on TV & some walk up ticket purchases.  But when they’re getting manhandled, those numbers go down.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Yep that was supposedly the block that prevented that deal from happening.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    Little Napoleon felt the need to make his presence known again I see.  Terrible, ugly loss but like others have pointed out there is still a severe lack of talent on this team.  Man I sound like a broken record say it with the Browns then Indians and now Cavaliers.

    Worst case scenario would be for Irving to suffer an injury in what has now become a lost season.  This is why I’m hoping they do the right thing with Varejao and not play him unless he’s unquestionably 100%.

  • Max

    ya’ll better have my donuts

  • This could not be more inaccurate.

  • No. “We” did nothing of the sort.

  • porckchopexpress

    I think if you go back and look there is no definitive answer, the Suns/Cavs trade talks were real wishy washy for 2 straight years. And besides, if you’ve watched Amare play there is no reason to believe he would have been the answer to a title, and he has pretty severe knee and back issues, and is guaranteed 22 mil a year for the next 3 years.

  • porckchopexpress

    Wait a minute you mean the owner of a company worth hundreds of millions of dollars is attempting to convey a message to his customers that a poor product is unacceptable?? The nerve of that guy.  If Microsofts image took a hit and shareholders became nervous would you call it “pandoring” for Bill Gates (I know he’s technically retired) to send a message to them that status quo was unnacceptable?

    Once again, I am at a loss for words how a group of sports fans can collectively mock Gilbert for being passionate about his team, trash Paul Dolan when he gives brutally honest answers for the struggles facing the Indians, and then sell out the Stadium every fall, when Lerner can’t be bothered to attend meetings regarding critical elements to his buiness, let alone speak regularly about said team.

  • porckchopexpress

    “Little” Napoleon is redundant, if you are calling someone Napoleon being short is inferred.  Also I’m not sure that Gilbert is anything less than average height, just judging from television. 
    Napoleon complex relates specifically to a person overcompensating for a lack of physical stature.  Being highly tempremantal, and even dictatorial does not qualify someone as having a “Napoleon complex”. 

    Through overuse, and lack of understanding how to use, ignorant sports fans have already ruined the phrase “drinking the koo-aid”.  I’m not letting it happen to Napoleon as well.

  • BrownsfanSF

    Not really complaining about it, but I think we are seeing a lack of effort out of AJ. Collectively defensively as well.

    That being said, love ya cavsdan!  But it’s Tankcity baby!

  • floydrubino

    Yeah all of a sudden Gilbert and Grant are going to get it right. I don’t care what JJ Hickson is and I don’t care if we get him back or not but your defending Gilbert who you just said that his 1st round selection is worth a box of donuts. But now they will understand what talent is this year when they have made one correct choice in 5 or 6 years. My point is that JJ Hickson is a big deal because he was our 1st round pick and they are worth more than a box of donuts. They went through all of this stuff with Sacramento and wasted valuable time on a worthless deal. Good business planning. Casspi never even knew how to play defense and you want him on the team. You defending Gilbert is funny because he is awful.

  • floydrubino

    I must of missed something when you said I wanted him back. I never wanted him to begin with. It was a tough year to draft in 2008 so you can’t be too critical but make trades do something. I was just pointing out how screwed up Gilbert makes the team and then complains that we need better. I agree and let’s start with a better owner who gets some people in here to evaluate talent. And you putting quotation marks and generalizing me into a category shows your ignorance. I am actually a proud Cleveland fan whose favorite player for the cavs was World B Free. Your bush league if you think people are angry sports fans for how much people support these teams when the owners every year can’t get it together. And Dan Gilbert is some Michigan person who only wants a championship for his own ego and not for the fans of Cleveland. He is using the Cleveland fans and only bought us because of you know who. If you can’t tell what kind of person Dan Gilbert is from the letter and some of the other stuff he has said it is probably because you are like him. I would never embarrass my fan base coming off how he has sounded.

  • floydrubino

    He plays for Portland now and never even got any minutes really for Sacramento. My point is the Cavs are spending energy on these type of deals that are a waste of time. Yeah way to defend spending valuable time getting rid of your 1st round pick for a player that is equally as worthless and just waste away your 1st rounder for nothing and then talk about how we deserve better. You don’t understand the irony of the guy that makes all these pathetic decisions is the one bitching about it.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I think you made the kool-aid before drinking it but WoW good luck on your mission to protect the sports blogosphere from phrases and jargon.   

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    And the insults and condescention just keep coming.  Nice to see you spewing your venom at others for a change.  It’s clear noone better reply to you because you take it so personally, wow.

  • floydrubino

    Or you are so wrong it makes me sick to my stomach.

  • i surrendered on ‘athleticism’ years ago.  
    but i too wish porkchop godspeed in his mission.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    See that’s your problem for you it’s all about being right or wrong.  You are always right and the rest of us are always wrong. 

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    yea i hear ya but i’m starting to get the feeling it’s personal with him that he doesn’t like me for some reason.  sigh, i guess that’ll be one less Christmas card i’ll be sending out.

  • cmm13

    I guess “pandering” was the wrong word. Maybe “speaking” was the better choice. The Cavs have been horrible at home this season…where the season ticket holders pay to watch games.

    I have no problem whatsoever with his tweet. I think it was appropriate and your analogy is a good one. Dan is the one owner in town I trust with a rebuild and am anxious to see what Grant is able to pull off with his upcoming Hugh draft pick and cap flexibility.

  • cmm13

    “Dan Gilbert is some Michigan person who wants a championship for his own ego and not for the fans of Cleveland”.

    Wow.

  • edpro1979

    Some of You people complain about Learner because hes never seen or heard.You complain about Dolan with the Indians because he doesnt spend any money and now the one owner who cares and will spend every dime he has on the team and cares about the fans…and you wanna beat him down also?…I swear

  • AJ

    I don’t know what to criticize first…your obvious lack of basketball knowledge, your totally illogical and clueless view of the best owner we have in Cleveland, or you horrific grammar! 

  • porckchopexpress

    It’s personal?  Who are we cyber Michael and Fredo? 
    The only other time I’ve even bothered with you was when you posted something about something I posted.  You felt I was to smarmy so I suggested we not argue sports anymore.

    This isn’t some vendetta, you clearly don’t understand what it means to call someone Napoleonic and I wanted to help you understand so reality you doesn’t look silly.  Half the people on this board, and everyone at ESPN badly misuse or at best grossly overuse “drinking the kool-aid”, I was too late with that one but I’ve got to fight this one. 
    If I do nothing and one day turn on the TV to see someone with an IQ hovering in the low Hodges or worse the high Schlereth’s calling every hotheaded player a Napoleon, I’ll never forgive myself. 

  • porckchopexpress

    Wouldn’t I have to make the kool-aid before drinking it? Again, you could save yourself alot of typing by taking some basic English classes and learning about inference. 
    And thank you for driving home the point with the most nonsensical attempt at use of “drinking the kool aid”, Mike Tyson could not have garbled it better.

  • floydrubino

    Believe me it’s not as fun as it sounds to be right all the time. It can be a burden.

  • floydrubino

    The best out of a group that includes Dolan and Lerner. Your right he is the greatest out of the worst. So you value grammar at the same level as basketball knowledge. I think you won’t be alone because a lot of you guys are wanna be wordsmiths. So go ahead and tell me exactly where I lack the knowledge. You babbled on about my grammar deficiencies but never got into specifics.

  • floydrubino

    The best out of a group that includes Dolan and Lerner. Your right he is the greatest out of the worst. So you value grammar at the same level as basketball knowledge. I think you won’t be alone because a lot of you guys are wanna be wordsmiths. So go ahead and tell me exactly where I lack the knowledge. You babbled on about my grammar deficiencies but never got into specifics.

  • The_Real_Shamrock

    I know how to spell PORK I know that much!  Have a nice day.

  • porckchopexpress

    And yet you don’t know how to punctuate the sentence. One step forward, one step back.