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LeBron James thinks he and Dan Gilbert could get along again

WFNY’s own Scott was on hand as LeBron James talked to the media following practice.  Of course his old team was a large part of the discussion.

From Scott’s twitter feed

LeBron: “Im happy where I am now […] If I decide to come back (to Cleveland) hopefully the fans accept me.”

LBJ says he believes there’s a day where he & Dan Gilbert can get along again. “He said what he said out of anger. I’ve made mistakes too.”

Finally on the Cavs and Kyrie Irving…

James says the Cavs landing Kyrie was huge. “It’s a point guard league.”

Not too much there, but it was certainly a mature and healthy response to the past with Dan Gilbert and his reactionary letter to “The Decision.” Maybe that means that all those fears about no free agents ever being willing to play for Dan Gilbert (and cash his checks) were overstated.

Also read from the last time the Cavs played the Heat, Windhorst: Before it’s All Over, LeBron Will Play for Cleveland

  • When will this idiot shut up?  He must be delusional if he thinks Gilbert would take him back without him crawling on his hands and knees down 9th street from the Rock Hall of Fame to the Q.

    Now, that I’d pay to see.

  • Edward

    Some day we’ll all look back at this Miami mistake as LeBron’s Spring Break

  • porckchpxprss

    I’ve been an absolute Gilbert supporter through this whole thing but it is time for him to make a similar statement and let this go.  Thats at least the 2nd public comment where Lebron has admitted he didn’t handle “the decision” well, Gilbert should do the same. 
    And when he becomes a free agent I hope Gilbert has the sense to go after him, and any fan who claims they “just want to see a title in Cleveland” should do the same. 

  • Vindictive_Pat

    Until he learns to play all 4 quarters, I just can’t agree with you.  As a longtime Cavs fan, I don’t think he would bring anything but ego back to Cleveland.  That’s not being spiteful, that’s history.  Every talking head says that LeBron is too talented to not win a championship at some point.  But why?  Talent is only a part of winning.  Whether it’s MJ, Kobe, Tony Parker, Dirk, or Chauncey Billups somebody on a championship team needs to have the will to win.  If you see LeBron getting to that point, then I think your statement is valid.  I think he’ll always be a little boy who wants to be loved more than he wants to be successful.

  • cmm13

    LeBron: “Im happy where I am now […] If I decide to come back (to Cleveland) hopefully the fans accept me.”

    I know there is a middle piece of this quotation that has been omitted most likely due to information not pertaining to the subject, but the second half “If I decide to come back”, really?

    If I’m not mistaken prior to any decision of an NBA player on which team they will play for an offer from the team generally must precede said decision.

    So until an offer is made from Dan and the organization there is no decision necessary #6.

  • Miami fans must love his dedication to their franchise. 

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    I dont want him back.  I think this is just a ploy to make everyone forget about the Decision.  Make a few vague comments about maybe coming back, get some fans to say they would take him back, and suddenly the outlash about the Decision is history and LeBron doesnt have to hear about it anymore.  He’s not coming back.  Lets not look desperate and hang on his every word that he might “grace us with his talents” once more.  

  • porckchpxprss

    He’s a little boy who can throw up a 35 – 10 – 9 on anyone in the league.  There is no denying his absolute choke job in big games, but there is also no denying that he is the single greatest talent in the game.  He’s also only one of about 3 guys who can shut down any 2 or 3 defensively.  I absolutely agree that he doesn’t and probably never will have the killer instinct.   I think the bigger problem with him coming back would be he would have to accept that the country club lifestyle under Mike Brown is over.  Even in Miami he gets to blow off the coach in ways that I’m pretty sure Byron Scott would publicly humiliate him for.

  • cmm13

    “Miami Fans” — does not compute.

  • Harv 21

    Don’t think this has anything to do with LeBron returning. He’s still desperately trying to escape from self-induced marketing nightmare and repair his image whenever the Cleveland topic comes up with a reporter.

    In other words, “I just want to be loved … is that so wrong?”

  • mgbode

    you have to remember that it’s all about the name on the back for him.

  • Humboldt

    Someone open the window, the cynicism is absolutely suffocating in this comments section.

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    you and I are on the same page.

  • Humboldt

    Lebron has, in multiple instances, acknowledged his mistakes and expressed regret.  He has also spoken warmly of his time in Cleveland.

    Why are we so incapable of forgiving Lebron and moving on? Why do some people continue to bash on him with the same mindless bromides (i.e. “quitter, choke artist, betrayal, #6”, etc)?  This must surely say as much about us as it does Lebron.

    I am reminded of the Nietzsche quote: “I counsel you, my friends: distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful!”

  • DocZeusX

    LeBron flirting with the opposing teams fans the day before he makes a trip to their arena?
    Where, oh where have I heard this tune.

    The simple matter is this. If LeBron James wanted to come to Cleveland, he’d already be here because he would have never left. Speculation about his future strikes me as deeply ridiculous. It’s not going to happen. Its not going to happen because LeBron desperately wanted out of Cleveland in the first place. A couple of years playing on South Beach isn’t going to make him want to play for the Cleveland Cavaliers anymore.

    And quite frankly even if it does, I really have no interest in engaging in LeBron’s late career nostalgia tour because he feels guilty about how the Decision went down. I’d rather the Cavs hurdle over him on their way to a championship than for him to come swooping in like a savior for us to finally win it all.

  • Jared in LA

    Eh, it’s just damage control by him and his camp to have people forget the decisions.  I would NOT expect Lebron to even mention coming back, if it were even a possibility.  He should’ve always left it as “I fucked up, I’m sorry, I’ve moved on completely, my time in Cleveland was great, thanks to the fans, I’m on a new team trying to win”.  What is this horse-bleep about ever coming back?  At what point, when he’s 36 and coming off the bench?  When’s he’s probably won 2 rings for another franchise and has only a year or two left in the tank?  Yuck.  Just shut-up already.  Say you enjoy your time here, which you did and that’s it.  Why the apology AND the reference to ever joining up with the Cavs again? 

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    How can you find anything he says sincere?  He says whatever he has to to make people love him or hate him less.  He compliments Cleveland a day before he comes back cause he doesnt want to be boo’d.  He gets on stage and arrogantly claims 8 rings.  Give me one statement or action from LeBron that you think is actually genuine and at the same time not self-serving or conceited.

  • Natedawg86

    we will take him back for league minimum.  He would be alright off the bench…oh wait I enjoy rooting against his team!

  • Bryan

    I acknowledge he is good at basketball.  But the deception and fraud he pulled on our city makes it very hard to trust him (remember, time and time again he said he had no reason to leave Cleveland, loved Cleveland, and wanted to bring a championship here).  That is a perfectly reasonable position.  It does not make me a “hater.”  It makes me a reasonable human being.  

    I will believe him if he actually leaves his contract early and announces that he wants to go only one place – Cleveland – and then asks that we forgive him.  Otherwise, based on his past behavior, I have no reason to believe he is sincere.  

  • Eli

    He is a citizen of the world. His hometown is Earth.

  • Steve

     As long as we admit that Gilbert is just as delusional, I think we’re good here.

  • Steve

    Even if he somehow has recently acquired some debilitating disease that prevents him from playing well in the fourth quarter, I’ll still gladly take those first three quarters and take my chances. You never know, maybe he has the ability to do something like this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzsAi1a1rog

  • EyesAbove

    Two things here, I think Harv nailed it when he said that LeBron just wants people to like him. I think it says a lot about how insecure he is.

    Kobe Bryant would flip Cleveland the bird and happily embrace the role of villain. LeBron tried that, but it doesnt seem to be working for him. He wants us to like him again.

    Also, the drafting of Kyrie Irving may have something to do with it. Wade is on the wrong side of 30 and his body is beginning to show signs of wear. Irving will be turning 20 in March and he’s already an All Star caliber player. LeBron will probably get a ring eventually, but the 7 title dynasty is a longshot at best. LeBron may see teaming up with a young point guard like Irving as an opportunity to be part of a Jordan-esque dynasty. 

  • Harv 21

    right, absolutely no justification to be cynical about stuff he says to the press. My bad

  • Jaker

    Do you really think Gilbert wouldn’t take him back? What if the Cavs land Harrison Barnes in the draft, Thompson develops into a great defensive 4/decent o9ffensive player who runs the break well, and LeBron opts out in 2014 like  Windy said he might. Do you really think Gilbert would say “Nah, in Cleveland, Pride is more important than Championships”?

    Yeah right. Take him back

  • Vindictive_Pat

    I actually think he’s a mediocre on-ball defender.  He’s great at the chase down block, but he never was able to shut down Paul Pierce when the Cavs would play the Celtics.  Or any other quality small forward for that matter.  He plays pretty far off his man hoping for a weak-side block.

  • Vindictive_Pat

    That’s the problem though… you can’t get those first 3 quarters without the 4th quarter, and James isn’t going to be okay differing to Kyrie Irving in the 4th quarter.  You might get a game like you linked to, but you are just as likely to get this game:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0

  • BrownsFanSF

    Man, that Kyrie Irving kid can really ball…

  • Humboldt

    The problem is in the categorical rejection people have to anything Lebron says – the knee-jerk cynicism that suffuses this comments section any time he is mentioned.

    I also don’t buy the “Lebron just wants to be loved” argument, which, you surely must agree is oversimplified psychobabble.

  • I think Gilbert would make him do that crawling act before he let him back.  He’d have to take out a few full page advertisements apologizing to the fans; have another “Decision” wherein he comes back.  Buy us all sandwiches and pay off our student loans.

    Then, and only then, would Gilbert be alright with him back in town.

    Also, if we draft Harrison Barnes and Thompson becomes a new Ben Wallace, we may not need him.

  • Haha, maybe.  But he is filthy rich.

  • BrownsFanSF

    I kinda agree with you here man.  I can’t be the only one who just doesn’t care anymore.  The Cavs for Mavs thing was fun and all and after that the venom kinda wore off.

    When did ESPN become Keeping Up With the Kardashians anyway???  This is just drama man.  Let’s talk basketball

  • Humboldt

    So your premise is that quite literally *nothing* he says is sincere? Sorry, but this is just reactionary nonsense.

    Lebron is obviously a flawed individual and he was, unquestionably, wrong in the manner by which he left town. I was furious about it and only felt cleansed of my anger after the Heat lost last June. 

    But to imply that he is an implacable enemy of Cleveland – despite his public attempts at expressing contrition — is just so small-minded. You’re entitled to that opinion, but I’d strongly encourage you to let the anger go.

  • Humboldt

    Bryan, I share the hurt with you and everyone on this site who lives and dies with Cleveland sports teams.

    I suppose my problem is that people are exercising a hindsight bias, projecting insincerity and deception onto everything Lebron did in the past and bracketing all the admirable things he did as an athlete. Given the psychological force of “The Decision”, this is an understandable response, but it is also warped.

    I don’t doubt Lebron when he says he loved playing in Cleveland (how could you not?), and he absolutely gave his heart and soul for the team and city when he was playing here. To suggest that he was just engaging in deception when he took the team on his back and dragged them past the Pistons and into the finals is delusional.

  • Jared in LA

    EyesAbove, do you actually believe that LeBron is even remotely “thinking” of a possible team up with Kyrie…..in Cleveland?  Dude wants no part of it.  He may want to bring Kyrie to Miami, but I can’t understand LeBron even talks anything of a “maybe” on returning to Cleveland, I just can’t even imagine the scenarios.  It would have to be an unprecedented (ala The Decision) move to abandon his current team and simultaneously apologize the City, all within’ the prime of his career, and how is this possible?   Which leads me back to the notion, why does LeBron even talk about a possible return?

  • wow, I think we’re all reading into this far too much. We’re missing the question or statement that prompted him to say this anyway. What’s he gonna say if asked about coming back? “Oh HELLS no, I ain’t never coming back to this dump. Not with what Dan said about me, not with these angry fans”. Of course not. He’s just giving the shiny-happy-media-response. (please note, those are not my feelings, just the complete opposite of what he said)

    Which is kind of how I see all the old “I don’t have any reason to leave Cleveland” babble… now, at least. Just saying the right thing, the response of least resistance. It could be true, it could be completely the opposite. It’s what he needed to say at that moment, for his career.

  • EyesAbove

    It sounds preposterous, but Windhorst floated this idea months ago and that guy doesnt write 2 words about LeBron without permission. Now its coming from the horses mouth “if i decide to return”, it could be that his motivation is to make Cleveland like him again, or maybe he actually wants to come back. Maybe its all PR, or maybe he’s discovered that Miami is not all its cracked up to be. Who knows? LeBron is such a strange guy I wouldnt put anything past him at this point.  

  • floydrubino

    I think what you are saying is that he does not care about defense. He spends so much effort on the offensive side that he doesn’t give the same effort defensively. This is the main distinction between him and michael jordan is that michael wanted to shut you down and took it personal if he didn’t. Lebron is a great offensive weapon but defense is about your natural competitiveness and he should easily be one of the greatest defenders of all time and he is not. With this being said I don’t know in a couple of years if I would want lebron back or not. And I really don’t care if Dan Gilbert wants him or not because he is in it for the money only anyways because he would of never bought the cavs if it wasn’t for lebron. The only thing Dan Gilbert has done is embarrassed a lot of really good cleveland fans that has to deal with this perception that we are like Dan Gilbert. I would never let it have gone that long without knowing where i stood. I would of stood up to lebron not in public but in private after the boston game and called him out. I would of not let him hold the franchise basically for ransom as him and his mom decided that it was alright to be selfish and stupid. Listen if I lost 175 million in a blink of an eye I would be upset too but I would have not taken us all down with you though. I have been a cleveland fan my entire life and after he did this I hope we win a championship but Gilbert embarrasses me as a fan still.

  • floydrubino

    and what’s great is without lebron being who he is we would of never got kyrie. I can honestly say that I would rather have Kyrie than lebron.

  • Steve

     This just isn’t true. You can get solid 4th quarters from him (and you can get excellent on-the-ball defense), look at the series against Chicago.

    I think he does have a tendency to flake out a bit when trying to come from behind, but again, I’m more than willing to take that chance to get the most talented player in the league.

    And I don’t buy for a second that he wouldn’t work well with Irving. People said that he couldn’t play alongside Wade, and yet neither missed a beat. Irving would be an even better fit.

  • Mattharper

    F$%& HIM

  • floydrubino

    I would rather have money over not having money of course but I would not want to come off how dan gilbert does. Dan Gilbert is some michigan transplant that lost money. He made us all look like idiots. We lost so much more than Dan Gilbert. We had our best chance to bring a championship and we get stuck with lebron who is a jerk and gilbert who came off sounding like an idiot who made us all look terrible. Oh no gilbert can’t buy his second yacht. Do you know how long all of us cleveland fans have suffered. But now we have Kyrie and he is really good player. And Gilbert is terrible for not taking brandon knight at #4. We could have had our backcourt for the next 8-10 years.

  • Hypno_Toad

    2nd that.

  • 5KMD

    An honest question for Jaker and Oribiasi and kind of off topic. Have you guys actually watched Barnes play or are you just reading the hype? Since he is linked to the Cavs so much I have been watching him as much as I can and I think he is soft and aloof to everything in basketball except shooting jumpshots.

    No thanks.

  • 5KMD

    Humboldt,

    “despite his public attempts at expressing contrition”

    A lot of folks here don’t actually believe he is sincere in his attempts at expressing contrition.

  • 5KMD

    But it became very clear during the summer he left that he had been planning his departure while he was still imployed by the Cavs. That’s the part that is hard for me to get over.

  • mgbode

    why are we talking about LeBron?   NEED MORE JEREMY LIN!